President Donald J. Trump

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 02 Oct 2018, 21:52

He knows he's a fraud. It's the only successful gig he's had.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Oct 2018, 17:50

Sneelock wrote:He inherited his Daddy’s gumption and avoided paying taxes on it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/trump-c ... -says.html


I read the whole NY Times article yesterday afternoon when it came out.

MSNBC host, Stephanie Ruhle, who has a financial background was funny and commented that any dolt would have been able to convert Trump's dad's investments into $10 billion dollars.

Instead, his daddy had to bail out his businesses successive times.

My constant refrain is, "Who loses money on casinos?" It's like building a fucking mint. The only other sure thing is starting an insurance company, another way to mint money, but I'm sure that was too boring for Trump.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Diamond Dog » 03 Oct 2018, 17:54

Here is George Clooney’s response after Trump accused him of being a "Hollywood elite."

Here’s the thing: I grew up in Kentucky. I sold insurance door-to-door. I sold ladies’ shoes. I worked at an all-night liquor store. I would buy suits that were too big and too long and cut the bottom of the pants off to make ties so I’d have a tie to go on job interviews. I grew up understanding what it was like to not have health insurance for eight years.
So this idea that I’m somehow the “Hollywood elite” and this guy who takes a shit in a gold toilet is somehow the man of the people is laughable.

People in Hollywood, for the most part, are people from the Midwest who moved to Hollywood to have a career. So this idea of “coastal elites” living in a bubble is ridiculous. Who lives in a bigger bubble?

He lives in a gold tower and has twelve people in his company. He doesn’t run a corporation of hundreds of thousands of people he employs and takes care of. He ran a company of twelve people!

When you direct a film you have seven different unions all wanting different things, you have to find consensus with all of them, and you have to get them moving in the same direction.

He’s never had to do any of that kind of stuff. I just look at it and I laugh when I see him say “Hollywood elite.” Hollywood elite? I don’t have a star on Hollywood Boulevard, Donald Trump has a star on Hollywood Boulevard! Fuck you!


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Oct 2018, 17:57

Diamond Dog wrote:Here is George Clooney’s response after Trump accused him of being a "Hollywood elite."

Here’s the thing: I grew up in Kentucky. I sold insurance door-to-door. I sold ladies’ shoes. I worked at an all-night liquor store. I would buy suits that were too big and too long and cut the bottom of the pants off to make ties so I’d have a tie to go on job interviews. I grew up understanding what it was like to not have health insurance for eight years.
So this idea that I’m somehow the “Hollywood elite” and this guy who takes a shit in a gold toilet is somehow the man of the people is laughable.

People in Hollywood, for the most part, are people from the Midwest who moved to Hollywood to have a career. So this idea of “coastal elites” living in a bubble is ridiculous. Who lives in a bigger bubble?

He lives in a gold tower and has twelve people in his company. He doesn’t run a corporation of hundreds of thousands of people he employs and takes care of. He ran a company of twelve people!

When you direct a film you have seven different unions all wanting different things, you have to find consensus with all of them, and you have to get them moving in the same direction.

He’s never had to do any of that kind of stuff. I just look at it and I laugh when I see him say “Hollywood elite.” Hollywood elite? I don’t have a star on Hollywood Boulevard, Donald Trump has a star on Hollywood Boulevard! Fuck you!


- George Clooney.


To be fair, I'm sure Trump had to deal with lots of mafia owned concrete companies.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 03 Oct 2018, 18:00

that's a great letter but guys like Right Wing Dad will never consider Clooney's point of view. the Republican base has gone completely feral. they have no interest in finding common ground with sissies like me and George Clooney.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 03 Oct 2018, 18:03

Sneelock wrote:that's a great letter but guys like Right Wing Dad will never consider Clooney's point of view.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Oct 2018, 18:22

Sneelock wrote:that's a great letter but guys like Right Wing Dad will never consider Clooney's point of view. the Republican base has gone completely feral. they have no interest in finding common ground with sissies like me and George Clooney.


You're right.

Last night, my son went somewhere with a friend whose dad is a Trump fan. My son said his friend's dad was going on and on about how Kavanaugh was getting screwed.

I don't think half these people even watch Fox News but get their "truth" straight from the horse's mouth. Of course, Fox just closes that feedback loop, but I don't know why Republicans are riding this horse. Trump's base isn't smarter, but Republican politicians are.

Their names will be a black stain in history books and I don't know how they can't see that.

Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but it seems pretty obvious.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby LeBaron » 03 Oct 2018, 18:40

sloopjohnc wrote:Their names will be a black stain in history books and I don't know how they can't see that.


You mean history books written by liberal elite PhD historians and scholars?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 03 Oct 2018, 18:43

LeBaron wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:Their names will be a black stain in history books and I don't know how they can't see that.


You mean history books written by liberal elite PhD historians and scholars?


:lol:

Yeah, those ones.

The fake news ones.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 03 Oct 2018, 19:36

Presidential alert, eh?

Where is this going?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 03 Oct 2018, 19:59

well, Kim is writing him love letters so....
Iran?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 03 Oct 2018, 20:17

Anyone see the Esquire story on the Nunes family farm?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a ... alifornia/

The TL;DR is it uses undocumented workers (in common with virtually all dairy farms in northwest Iowa, apparently) and Nunes and family have been covering it up. Ryan Lizza, on loan from the New Yorker, apparently, investigates and once the Nunes family figures what he's up to, things get creepy.

Also, there's an ethics issue; publishing the story may put the workers at risk. On the other hand, if ICE showed up and carted everyone off, the industry would fail instantly. So that's probably not going to happen.

Anyhoo, pretty rank hypocrisy from Nunes (to no one's surprise, I'm sure).
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 03 Oct 2018, 21:29

Just because you own a farm or two doesn't mean you're a farmer, it simple means you're a business person. And Blue Bunny ice cream is some of the nastiest crap out there. Not surprising Milk o' Nunes is involved.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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Snarfyguy wrote:Anyone see the Esquire story on the Nunes family farm?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a ... alifornia/

The TL;DR is it uses undocumented workers (in common with virtually all dairy farms in northwest Iowa, apparently) and Nunes and family have been covering it up. Ryan Lizza, on loan from the New Yorker, apparently, investigates and once the Nunes family figures what he's up to, things get creepy.

Also, there's an ethics issue; publishing the story may put the workers at risk. On the other hand, if ICE showed up and carted everyone off, the industry would fail instantly. So that's probably not going to happen.


Apparently, voters in Tulare County, which Nunes represents, have known this for years. The farm Nunes shows on commercials is his uncle. I have relatives in Visalia, which is in Tulare County. It is the California tourists don't see or think of when they think of California. Many of the farmers and ranchers there are descendants of the dustbowl immigrants and that area is more like Kansas than the coast in temperament. Many still carry a midwest twang.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 03 Oct 2018, 23:22

About the NY Times Report, Donald Trump wrote:The Failing New York Times did something I have never seen done before. They used the concept of “time value of money” in doing a very old, boring and often told hit piece on me. Added up, this means that 97% of their stories on me are bad. Never recovered from bad election call!


NY Mag observes

The “time value of money” is a very basic principle that anybody in business should know. It holds that the same nominal amount of money becomes less valuable over time. A person would rather be given a thousand dollars today than be guaranteed a payment of a thousand dollars ten years from now, because inflation erodes its value. Trump’s professed unfamiliarity with this elemental business concept does not challenge any of the findings of the story, and indeed perhaps helps explain why his father needed to give him such lavish support.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 04 Oct 2018, 00:23

the conservatives bouncing around in my personal gumball machine feel about the New York Times about the way Right Wing Dad feels about the Senate Judiciary committee -- namely SNARL.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 04 Oct 2018, 00:30

Sneelock wrote:the conservatives bouncing around in my personal gumball machine feel about the New York Times about the way Right Wing Dad feels about the Senate Judiciary committee -- namely SNARL.

The report seems like good, solid work. Of course it's two years too late. :x
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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A new corporate filing in the United Kingdom shows that Donald Trump’s prized Turnberry golf resort still hasn’t turned a profit for the president. According to paperwork filed last week by the Trump Organization, the Scottish property lost £3.3 million or nearly $4.5 million in 2017.

On his personal financial disclosure forms filed in the United States, Trump claimed the course earned him $20.3 million in “golf revenue”—which the UK filings for his company, Golf Recreation Scotland Limited, the parent firm of the Turnberry resort, back up. But Trump didn’t disclose that he spent far more to operate the course.

The course has been in the red since Trump purchased it in 2014 for $60 million. He subsequently pumped more than $140 million into renovating the property. In previous years, the Trump family claimed the losses occurred because the resort had been partially closed. Last year, however, the resort was fully open for business.

According to filings in the UK, the Turnberry course has lost about $44.5 million since 2014.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 04 Oct 2018, 17:35

Sneelock wrote:the conservatives bouncing around in my personal gumball machine feel about the New York Times about the way Right Wing Dad feels about the Senate Judiciary committee -- namely SNARL.


That's part of what gets me. Why they believe Trump lock, stock, and barrel.

My dad finally turned against Vietnam when Cronkite did and I don't remember this kind of resentment in the Watergate hearings.

Is it just distrust in government institutions and the general media? I guess I get that, but why put your faith in a charlatan?

Are people that desperate. Maybe they are.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 04 Oct 2018, 18:08

For the most part, I don't perceive desperation, but rather a toxic mix of evny, bitterness, xenophobia, feelings of personal inadequacy, ignorance (willful or not) and just plain meanness. There really isn't a consistent philosophy amongst his base other than: 'libruls mad = policy good'.