President Donald J. Trump

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 02 Oct 2018, 07:54

Jimbo wrote:
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1. What does the world you want look like?

2. How do you get there from here?



I want what Obama had promised. Did that not seem doable? It did to me.


He lived up to more of his promises than any President in our lifetimes.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 02 Oct 2018, 08:16

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
Davey the Fat Boy wrote:
1. What does the world you want look like?

2. How do you get there from here?



I want what Obama had promised. Did that not seem doable? It did to me.


He lived up to more of his promises than any President in our lifetimes.


There, ya see? You had to tell a little lie to keep the myth, the delusion going. Maybe we really can't handle the truth. I mean, everyone thinks they can handle the truth but maybe it's necessary for us to weave lies into the fabric to keep society together like telling your wife she doesn't look fat to keep the marriage happy. But I don't think we should sugarcoat all the killing, torture, larceny and slander. Or maybe we should but the genii is out of the bottle. That is why this internet clampdown is upon us. As a number of my favorite alt news sites are gummed up or disappear I find watching Jay Leno clips on YouTube fun, just like before the internet. So, should we blame the internet for giving us too much info (Uh, that's a little too much information.) or should we know the truth and once known and acknowledged - and all the bastards are in prison - progress?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 02 Oct 2018, 08:20

What lie?

Let’s be specific. What promise were you talking about here?

Jimbo wrote:
Davey the Fat Boy wrote:
1. What does the world you want look like?

2. How do you get there from here?



I want what Obama had promised. Did that not seem doable? It did to me.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 02 Oct 2018, 08:26

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:What lie?

Let’s be specific. What promise were you talking about here?


THE promise, to make things better. They're worse.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 02 Oct 2018, 08:34

You are an idiot.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON » 02 Oct 2018, 09:22

Jimbo, you're getting worse, seriously.

What are you taking?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON » 02 Oct 2018, 13:54

The UK was split on its opinion of the US under Trump, with 50% having favourable views

:?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... SApp_Other
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby pig bodine » 02 Oct 2018, 14:33

Trump has fulfilled a lot of his promises. Unfortunately, those promises were divisive and racist and pandered to an angry white racist sexist uneducated fearful minority.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON » 02 Oct 2018, 15:07

but half of the UK electorate regard him favourably? I find that very difficult to believe.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 02 Oct 2018, 15:40

pig bodine wrote:Trump has fulfilled a lot of his promises. Unfortunately, those promises were divisive and racist and pandered to an angry white racist sexist uneducated fearful minority.


He also promised all sorts of things he completely ignored after taking office. He promised to lower taxes for the middle class and raise them for the rich. He promised a “terrific” health care plan that would cover everyone at a lower cost. He even promised to release his tax returns after a “routine audit” was complete.

So let’s not give him credit for any kind of integrity. Even reverse integrity.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 02 Oct 2018, 15:56

Yeah, how's that infrastructure plan coming along?
(semi-serious question; I haven't heard a whisper about it in over a year)
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 02 Oct 2018, 17:20

or the war on opioids?
look, moving on California (like a bitch) because it passed Net Neutrality law - this is the sort of thing that the TRUMP admin. can be relied on to do.

"populist" promises are cans to kick down the road. the corporate agenda is the main event with more than enough Heritage Foundation / Mike Pence checkboxes checked to keep the evangelicals happy and pliant.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby bobzilla77 » 02 Oct 2018, 19:41

TootyFrooty wrote:but half of the UK electorate regard him favourably? I find that very difficult to believe.


I don't. Over half the voters in the UK went all in for Brexit. It feels like another side of the same coin. This massive feeling that cooperation is bullshit, that foreigners are scary and awful, and that everyone needs to be in it for themselves.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby SWIMMING POOL HARRINGTON » 02 Oct 2018, 19:49

Yeah, I get that.

But Trump-hate is across the board here. He's seen as a clown, at best, even by staunch Tories or Brexiteers. It's not like in the US, where you have a fairly clear Liberal/reactionary (for want of a better term) division. We just dislike the man as an entity, someone who represents the very worst of American excess and stupidity.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 02 Oct 2018, 20:30

Today:
"It is a very scary time for young men in America, when you can be guilty of something you may not be guilty of"


And in '89:
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 02 Oct 2018, 20:50

Trump's got gumption. People like a man* with gumption.

*ladies, too.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 02 Oct 2018, 21:10

He inherited his Daddy’s gumption and avoided paying taxes on it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/trump-c ... -says.html
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 02 Oct 2018, 21:24

His plebian cult are predictably attempting to spin this as another example of his impressive business acumen: Income taxes are illegal, screw the IRS, etc.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby $P.Muff$ » 02 Oct 2018, 21:38

From the NY Times article:

By age 3, Mr. Trump was earning $200,000 a year in today’s dollars from his father’s empire. He was a millionaire by age 8.


Clearly a financial guru, right?

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 02 Oct 2018, 21:40

:lol: He certainly seems to think so.
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