President Donald J. Trump

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby yomptepi » 09 Sep 2018, 10:23

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Jim Carrey on Bill Maher where he makes justifiable fun of Trump but what got my goat in the clip was (at 12:10) when Maher defers to Obama campaign manager David Axelrod and Axelrod shits on new Democratic primary winners who campaigned on "Medicare for all, ending student debt, a different approach to the war on terror, ending mass incarceration". I use quotes because note how mealy-mouthed Axelrod can't even say these words back and then poo-poos them as local issues. I had to give my computer the finger.


Why does anyone give a shit what some fucking actor has to say about politics. I just don't get. Here in the UK it feels like the only ones with opinions that count are comedians. Utter cunts like Frankie Boyle, handing out pearls of their stupidity as it it were diamonds. Why does anyone care what they think?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Eddie Shah environment » 09 Sep 2018, 10:54

Infotainment or some stupid shit. Maybe it's more digestible. I dunno. I don't get it either.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 09 Sep 2018, 11:01

yomptepi wrote: Why does anyone give a shit what some fucking actor has to say about politics. I just don't get. Here in the UK it feels like the only ones with opinions that count are comedians. Utter cunts like Frankie Boyle, handing out pearls of their stupidity as it it were diamonds. Why does anyone care what they think?


I like hearing the opinions of smart people in general and Carrey happens to be very smart, and he's funny, plus he's been actively drawing and publishing political cartoons in the anti-Trump campaign and that makes him a pundit, whose opinions it seems you respect. As for hearing actors' and comedians' opinions, if they're smart, why not have a listen? I read your opinions and you're just a builder, but you're smart. (And you're mostly wrong. ;) )
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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 09 Sep 2018, 15:58

Basically, Jimbo’s interested in anyone other than trained journalists.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 10 Sep 2018, 00:06

yomptepi wrote:Why does anyone give a shit what some fucking actor has to say about politics. I just don't get.


I don’t get why people don’t get it. Ol’ Blue Eyes sang about JFK’s high hopes. Charlton Heston talked about the importance of civil rights and the gun in his cold, dead fingers. Jimmy Stewart said he was voting for Reagan instead of President Ford. James Woods, Ted Nugent, John Lovitz and many others bitched about Obama in a very personal and detailed way. Martin Sheen & Jackson Brown didn’t like Nuclear power Plants. Anita Bryant didn’t like the Gays. Clint Eastwood didn’t like that empty chair. It doesn’t matter if you get it or not. They are well known people and have an easy time getting people to pay attention to them when they have a bug up their ass. How much certain people complain about them doing this generally depends on the species of bug.

I agree with Jim Carrey that the Canadian Health Care system is usually discussed, on our public affairs shows,in terms of it’s problems. Of course it has problems but I think this is done in contrast with the U.S. system in a way that marginalizes the problems in our system & emphasizes the problems with theirs. Sharing his personal experience and opinion doesn’t rub me the wrong way at all. I think it’s a point in his favor that it is rubbing certain people the wrong way.

He’s been criticizing TRUMP & his policies for a while now. Enough that people are threatening not to support his projects anymore. Everybody i’ve Mentioned in this post made that choice. They knew they rran the risk of offending sections of their audience. It’s their skin. It’s their call to do this just as it is ours not to give a shit.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby yomptepi » 10 Sep 2018, 00:44

It is a misplaced trust. Just because someone has been in a film , or has been on the television does not mean they have an opinion worth a shit. I don't give a fuck what they have to say, and I don't care if they have a reputation for speaking their minds. It is an abuse of their position to make any kind of political announcement. They haven't earned the right to influence me. Their profile does not make their thoughts important or worthwhile. They can all fuck off.
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:lol:

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yomptepi wrote:Just because someone has been in a film , or has been on the television does not mean they have an opinion worth a shit.

Nor does it mean their opinion ISN'T worth a shit. They're citizens. If I can say what I want to (and so far I still can), then they can say what they want to. If more people happen to hear them, well, bully for them. If I were in their position I would certainly resent anyone telling me I have an obligation to STFU.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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BOXO wrote::lol:

yep


And when you think about it, half the reason we are all having to put up with that orange fuck is because he was on the telly. even though he was the " expert " in a stupid game show, people somehow started to believe that he was really this amazing businessman. Despite the reality being completely different. The stupid half wits who watch this sort of shit thought " Hey, he looks like he could do a better job than Obama" and put him in the White House. And suddenly we expected to have the fucking Rock standing 2024. Or perhaps Bill Murray , who I am assured is very smart, will stand. Get a fucking grip people. They are entertainers. Honestly, I despair. We are all fucked.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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yomptepi wrote:Just because someone has been in a film , or has been on the television does not mean they have an opinion worth a shit.

Nor does it mean their opinion ISN'T worth a shit. They're citizens. If I can say what I want to (and so far I still can), then they can say what they want to. If more people happen to hear them, well, bully for them. If I were in their position I would certainly resent anyone telling me I have an obligation to STFU.


What Mike also does not get is they are normally more articulate and entertaining than most people, which is why they are what they are and why TV wants to put them on their programs, and people like to see a familiar face on TV; if we all got our 10 mins no one would watch, I can't even believe the Bear's family would tune in if he was one boring on about what a cunt Blair was, but if Jim Carey is going to do it, yeah why not? I liked The Truman show.
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Charlie O. wrote:
yomptepi wrote:Just because someone has been in a film , or has been on the television does not mean they have an opinion worth a shit.

Nor does it mean their opinion ISN'T worth a shit. They're citizens. If I can say what I want to (and so far I still can), then they can say what they want to. If more people happen to hear them, well, bully for them. If I were in their position I would certainly resent anyone telling me I have an obligation to STFU.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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yomptepi wrote:
BOXO wrote::lol:

yep


And when you think about it, half the reason we are all having to put up with that orange fuck is because he was on the telly.


Partly; but more because morons can vote too, and if the alternative is not all that engaging then the morons may win.

At least Corbyn engages the non-morons, which is lucky seeing as cunts like you are queueing up to vote for that gurning twat Johnson.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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yomptepi wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:
yomptepi wrote:Just because someone has been in a film , or has been on the television does not mean they have an opinion worth a shit.

Nor does it mean their opinion ISN'T worth a shit. They're citizens. If I can say what I want to (and so far I still can), then they can say what they want to. If more people happen to hear them, well, bully for them. If I were in their position I would certainly resent anyone telling me I have an obligation to STFU.


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At least Corbyn engages the non-morons, .



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Copehead wrote:
yomptepi wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:Nor does it mean their opinion ISN'T worth a shit. They're citizens. If I can say what I want to (and so far I still can), then they can say what they want to. If more people happen to hear them, well, bully for them. If I were in their position I would certainly resent anyone telling me I have an obligation to STFU.


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Postby Snarfyguy » 10 Sep 2018, 01:08

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yomptepi wrote:
BOXO wrote::lol:

yep


And when you think about it, half the reason we are all having to put up with that orange fuck is because he was on the telly. even though he was the " expert " in a stupid game show, people somehow started to believe that he was really this amazing businessman. Despite the reality being completely different. The stupid half wits who watch this sort of shit thought " Hey, he looks like he could do a better job than Obama" and put him in the White House. And suddenly we expected to have the fucking Rock standing 2024. Or perhaps Bill Murray , who I am assured is very smart, will stand. Get a fucking grip people. They are entertainers. Honestly, I despair. We are all fucked.


I see it way different than you. Donald J. TRUMP , Arnold and even Reagan were coaxed into political careers by the “gee whiz” coverage they got. People who disagree with the politics of people like Paul Robeson, Harry Belafonte, even Colin Kaepernick always have a prime platform to tell them to shut up and get back to work.
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yomptepi wrote:
Copehead wrote:
At least Corbyn engages the non-morons, .



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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yomptepi wrote:
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yomptepi wrote:
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Sneelock wrote:
yomptepi wrote:
BOXO wrote::lol:

yep


And when you think about it, half the reason we are all having to put up with that orange fuck is because he was on the telly. even though he was the " expert " in a stupid game show, people somehow started to believe that he was really this amazing businessman. Despite the reality being completely different. The stupid half wits who watch this sort of shit thought " Hey, he looks like he could do a better job than Obama" and put him in the White House. And suddenly we expected to have the fucking Rock standing 2024. Or perhaps Bill Murray , who I am assured is very smart, will stand. Get a fucking grip people. They are entertainers. Honestly, I despair. We are all fucked.


I see it way different than you. Donald J. TRUMP , Arnold and even Reagan were coaxed into political careers by the “gee whiz” coverage they got. People who disagree with the politics of people like Paul Robeson, Harry Belofonte, even Colin Kaepernick always have a platform to tell them to shut up and get back to work.


I don't care. I am not interested in what any entertainer has to say. They can all fuck off. What is wrong with Americans that would vote for fucking film star. It is irrational.
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