President Donald J. Trump

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 12 May 2018, 04:51

sneelock wrote:I know Stormy Daniel's lawyer is a major Showboat but still...

Don't overlook the fact that, for now, the venue here is the court of public opinion, in 2018. I guess you have to fight fire with fire. How can you begrudge him his theatrics in the age of Instagram and Twitter?

So now that the smoke has cleared (LOL), Cohen isn't likely to be charged for influence peddling, because the definition of the word "lobbying" got narrowed in some U.S. Supreme Court case that Baron probably knows about. But Avenatti hints that there's worse to come, and that it's going to come out incrementally.

I have to say I'm enjoying the cat-and-mouse game he's playing, suggesting he can take down the prez with info he's doling out piecemeal, challenging his adversaries to confess and surrender. He's really swinging for the fences.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 14 May 2018, 17:12

When is Trump going to have had enough of Rudy running his mouth and going off-message on TV?

One day: "The president denied the [AT&T] merger."
The next day: "He told me directly he didn't interfere."

This is some spectacular ineptitude. How can it be that they can't get their story straight here?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 14 May 2018, 17:45

Jimbo wrote:I smear you. You smear me. We're a dysfunctional coun-ter-y …

Stormy Daniels' lawyer Michael Avenatti has some explaining to do…

After appearing on CNN 59 times to claim the moral high ground over President Trump's alleged decade-old affair with Daniels, skeletons in Avenatti's closet are now beginning to pour out.

Questions have emerged over who's funding Avenatti, how he was privy to Trump attorney Michael Cohen's bank records - and how exactly did he obtain banking transactions for two men also named Michael Cohen, who he wrongly accused in a seven-page "dossier" released this week.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05- ... st-catches


He seemed a little too good to be true, and I am always suspicious of a person like that.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 14 May 2018, 18:52

^^^ Consider the source. I'm not sure Zero Hedge is reputable, being notable for spouting Rothschild conspiracies (anti-Semitic dogwhistle) and the like. Also, consider that fact that the story (which I confess I haven't read) doesn't seem to be gaining any traction among respected news organs. Finally, keep in mind the sheer inevitability of personal/professional smears and attacks on Avenatti. Can't say this comes as a surprise.

Happy one yer anniversary of the Mueller investigation. The score stands at 21 indictments/guilty pleas.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... grand-jury
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 17 May 2018, 19:56

I posted this comment on CN reacting to an article about how Europe will ultimately knuckle under Trump's will and cancel the Iran deal along with the US. https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/12/t ... ent-324837

It’s coming more and more clear that Trump is a real O.G. and he does not give a fuck.

Declining US, I don’t think so. Military bases all over the world, top weapon systems, got weapons up in space, the US dollar still the only currency that matters. Sheeeit. Trump ain’t playing. Treaties, negotiations, compromises, that shit’s for pussies.

Might fucking work. Don’t like it? Lump it.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby LeBaron » 17 May 2018, 20:03

Well, he certainly doesn’t give a fuck (as long as people are talking about him), I’ll give you that!

:lol: :roll:
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 17 May 2018, 20:19

LeBaron wrote:Well, he certainly doesn’t give a fuck (as long as people are talking about him), I’ll give you that!

:lol: :roll:


At this rate those "people" better keep their traps shut.

Look how we trembled when North Korea brandished those missiles. Trump will take the same tack as Rocket Man and up it and like Crocodile Dundee will say to Putin or who the fuck ever, "You call that a missile? This is a missile."

Look how he's beating all those raps. He's getting better and better at this game. He's looking at his hand and he's holding a full house. What do the Democrats have, a pair of treys? Sheeeit.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby LeBaron » 17 May 2018, 20:42

You’ve gone over the edge.
Which is saying something.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby BOLLY BEE » 17 May 2018, 20:45

This makes a lot of sense (not especially new to most of us, I suspect):

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sneelock » 17 May 2018, 21:41

Jimbo wrote: He's getting better and better at this game. He's looking at his hand and he's holding a full house.

crazy talk.

when we say "the Bush Doctrine" you think of W. pulling out of the ABM treaties-unilateralism, pre-emptive strikes, doubling down military efforts in lost cause situations time and time again.

"Obama Doctrine" is shaping up to mean some things. among these -- selective down-sizing of "feet on the ground" (with increased privatization and drone strikes). more emphasis on problem areas. this emphasis would change (not very effectively) as the problems changed.

what will "the TRUMP Doctrine" mean? I'm sorry Jimbo, you really think the joke is on us and he's achieving goals? what goals might those be? it seems to me that a country kisses his ass then he loves them. If he has business concerns in their country (yes, RUSSIA) then he is especially pliant.

what the hell is the Trump Doctrine? whatever is good for trump's personal interests or strikes his fancy between breakfast and naptime. The idea that he's out thinking anybody makes me cough up blood laughing.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sneelock » 17 May 2018, 21:46

speaking of Russia...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/p ... ussia.html

14 hyper partisan months. what's the conclusion?

“There is no doubt that Russia undertook an unprecedented effort to interfere with our 2016 elections.”
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 17 May 2018, 21:54

sneelock wrote:what the hell is the Trump Doctrine? whatever is good for trump's personal interests or strikes his fancy between breakfast and naptime.


In a nutshell - China and ZTE, Russia and hotels, Saudi Arabia and hotels.

Pretty simple really.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 17 May 2018, 22:00

No, I'm sorry but I'm not joking. I'm being realistic. Tump is doing the same shit as Bush and Obama but his style is O.G. and not folksy like Bush or erudite like Obama. And if you think Hillary's policies would have been much different you are wrong. What Trump is doing is what the US has done forever, run shit the way we want. US capitalism uber alles. Chomsky complains Trump tore up the Global Warming agreement. Well, it was Obama who opened up the northern sea for oil exploration and Hillary who approved the pipeline. Both of them favored overthrowing Assad and you can bet Hillary would have done her best to make shit rough for Putin. The mask is off and it's Trump's face we see. I'm not glorifying or approving Trump but seeing shit in totality. Materially the west is the best. We got the cars and the roads and the amusement parks and all that shit and that's the shit we want to sell everywhere - in dollars motherfucker.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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You see no difference between "u.s. interests" and TRUMP interests?

I think it's a big goddam difference
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 17 May 2018, 22:11

sneelock wrote:speaking of Russia...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/p ... ussia.html

14 hyper partisan months. what's the conclusion?

“There is no doubt that Russia undertook an unprecedented effort to interfere with our 2016 elections.”


More namby pamby crap. The least the article could have done was serve up some examples of collusion but instead merely quotes a guy on the committee, not that he is biased. Oh, they refer back to the debunked study which blamed RT for the collusion. Jeez. You ain't gonna get Trump on the Russia rap, shee,
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sneelock » 17 May 2018, 22:18

Jimbo, I shudder to think of you as the Daily Planet's Perry White, deciding what is and isn't fit to print.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 17 May 2018, 22:18

sneelock wrote:You see no difference between "u.s. interests" and TRUMP interests?

I think it's a big goddam difference


Name a few. Not talking about the US people, poor people, sick people, students, workers, etc. because obviously Trump doesn't car about them but Obama didn't do much to help them either. i.e., Not that O didn't have a chance to get single payer. He said he favored it but ultimately went with a plan which would enrich corporations.

But be honest, materially, a lot of people do well in the US as they did under Obama and even Bush. But studies show what people want and what they get from government is very little. What business wants, well they get.

One measure of how well the US is doing is how many more millionaires there are and there are loads. No way is that the end all and be all of good news but it is a metric not to be sneezed at. I wish I were a millionaire.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sneelock » 17 May 2018, 22:34

Who are you and what have you done with Jimbo?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 17 May 2018, 22:43

sneelock wrote:Who are you and what have you done with Jimbo?


I watched a documentary yesterday about the "coming war with China" and it showed just how powerful the US is and how it rides roughshod over every island or people which is in it's way, especially if we can launch missiles at China from your beaches. For example the way the US treated Micronesia with all the nuclear bomb testing was a tragedy. We polluted the land and water and gave cancer to the inhabitants and we didn't do diddly to help them. No, to be fair we did do diddly but not much more. I was supposed to come away angry at the US for it's mistreatment but instead I came away thinking what an unstoppable colossus we are.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 18 May 2018, 03:13

China’s petro-yuan ‘thundering into action’ as Iran ditches US dollar in oil trade
Published time: 14 May, 2018 11:14
https://www.rt.com/business/426637-chin ... rade-iran/

Yes! Now Trump has an excuse to invade Iran - and then "Chyaina."
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