President Donald J. Trump

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 26 Apr 2018, 17:37

The Atlantic wrote:“It is all lies and it is a horrible thing that is going on, a horrible thing,” Trump continued. “Yet I have accomplished with all of this going on more than any president in the first year in our history. Everybody, even the enemies and haters admit that. We have accomplished more than any president in the first year by far.” No part of this statement is true.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 26 Apr 2018, 17:41

seriously, he tweets about Cohen not "flipping". isn't the very use of the phrase an admission of something one way or the other?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 26 Apr 2018, 17:48

The guy will say anything. He'll utter verifiable falsehoods under oath, but somehow get a pass because he believes (or appears to believe) his own bullshit.

But if he gives sworn testimony to Mueller, he's toast, 'cause homey don't play that.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 26 Apr 2018, 18:28

I hope not. That whole Comey situation is pretty troubling. It seems like extenuating circumstances are in the eye of the beholder.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby bobzilla77 » 26 Apr 2018, 18:43

LOCK JIMBO UP!!!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby sloopjohnc » 26 Apr 2018, 18:50

I don't know if anyone watched the CNN Town Hall with Comey and Anderson Cooper at William and Mary's.

Interesting.

One of the stories Comey told was about how he was led into law enforcement. When he was a senior in high school, a notorious, regional rapist broke into his house when only he and his brother were home. Comey convinced the rapist to lock his brother and him in the bathroom. Eventually, the rapist disappeared into a nearby woods and was never caught, but Comey said he thought about that life or death situation every day for the next five years.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 27 Apr 2018, 14:33

The Democrats are officially an over-funded novelty joke party with a humorously ironic novelty joke name. They are useless. They are worthless. Time for something new
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Pelosi: “I Don’t See Anything Inappropriate” In Rigging Primaries

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 27 Apr 2018, 15:55

How come no one here is cheering for the DNC lawsuit against Wikileaks?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 27 Apr 2018, 16:24

‘Cause it’s dumb.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Wally Bingbang » 27 Apr 2018, 16:37

Lawsuits are BOOOORING.
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Postby kalowski II: The Revenge » 27 Apr 2018, 16:40

We’ve not received the latest ANALYSIS.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 27 Apr 2018, 16:50

Jimbo wrote:How come no one here is cheering for the DNC lawsuit against Wikileaks?

I'm all for it.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 28 Apr 2018, 00:53

I think the way they are going about it is a mistake. I think it plays into the Repubs narrative that the Dems are still in denial about 2016. I think it puts the Repubs in the cat-bird seat and they are already more smug than I can possibly stand. I think the best antidote to that smugness is to beat the ever loving pants off of them this year.

I think the audio clip Jimbo posted underlines some worries I've been having about the party's ability to do this. I don't want to get my Sumo Suit on and start grappling with Davey but MY opinion is that the party is seriously out of touch with the political realities of the year 2018. I think the lawsuit is unfocused and makes them look like whiners. I'd like to see them acting like winners. rah rah.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 28 Apr 2018, 05:03

sneelock wrote:I don't want to get my Sumo Suit on and start grappling with Davey but MY opinion is that the party is seriously out of touch with the political realities of the year 2018. I think the lawsuit is unfocused and makes them look like whiners. I'd like to see them acting like winners. rah rah.


I’m not a big fan of the lawsuit. But I don’t think it is going to impact things much either way. Nobody seems to care - and that is probably fine.

As for the larger issue regarding the party...I’m just not sure that you can tell anything from how things look right now. I get your concerns, and I don’t dismiss them. But I’m not sure that Democrats gain anything by nationalizing their message/strategy in 2018. We are going to try to win in a lot of reddish-purple districts and states - and the best way to do that is to allow voters to look at their individual candidates as not too closely aligned with Nancy and Chuck.

So for the moment, I think we’re seeing what we should be seeing. If it gets to late 2019 and it still feels like this, I’ll join you in worrying.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 28 Apr 2018, 05:17

Well, when the legislative brach of the government is enabling a corrupt executive branch what else is there but the judicial branch?

Keep in mind that the object here is not to put Wikileaks or Russia "in jail," but rather to see what information/documents emerge in the discovery phase of the proceedings (if it gets to that point). I don't really care "how it looks"; the right wing is going to be making the same amount of noise no matter what the left does, or doesn't do.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 28 Apr 2018, 06:28

Jimbo wrote:
The Democrats are officially an over-funded novelty joke party with a humorously ironic novelty joke name. They are useless. They are worthless. Time for something new
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Pelosi: “I Don’t See Anything Inappropriate” In Rigging Primaries

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/pelo ... 1ac1bb70c8



Here’s some context...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.pastem ... stric.html

The DCCC is in the business of trying to win elections. Jason Crow is currently leading Mile Coffman in most polls in what has historically been a reliably conservative district. So why shouldn’t the party back a guy who they think can win?

By all accounts Tillerman looks pretty solid, so I won’t try to compare him to the parade of tea party candidates who lost winnable seats for the GOP over the last few elections. But their existence illustrates why the party would want to be involved and why strict democracy isn’t always the best idea. We don’t actually know these people. We see them on tv. We read about them. The people who work in politics do - and they often know things we don’t.

So we have a system that allows the party to try to guide their voters. You wouldn’t disagree with that as a concept if you felt they were guiding people towards the things you want.you would call it leadership.

Anyhow - Tillerman’s brand of progressivism might or might not be electable in a reddish-purple district. We don’t know. But we DO know that Crow was polling ahead before Tillerman released that tape. If it causes the local party to split and elects Coffman, will that feel like a progressive victory to you?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 03 May 2018, 17:19

Well, it didn't take Rudy long to straighten everything out, LOL!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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:lol:
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Count Machuki » 03 May 2018, 18:17

I thought that Guiliani thing was a major fuckup at first but it was deliberate, right?
Copping to it as a personal payment is the least bad option right now.
Notice the way he fell over himself to make clear that it wasn't campaign money.
Like that campaign was competent enough to know the difference.
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