Former President Donald J. Trump

[Sneelock]

One thing Jeb Bush got right was referring to a possible TRUMP presidency as a “Chaos President”.
It’s been a Goddam Tilt-a-Whirl since day one.

[Belle Lettre]

And now he’s pulled this Jerusalem stunt.
What could possibly go wrong etc

It's like Father Dougal pressing the red button.

[Snarfyguy]

A whistleblower appears to be confirming Flynn's efforts to undermine foreign policy by suggesting or offering to have the Russia sanctions "ripped up."

Huh.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/ ... index.html

[clive gash]

So, now that his attempts at race war at home and nuclear war abroad have faltered a little, Trump does what he can to stir that ‘ole pot and, yippee! gets others to start WW3 for him.

[naughty boy]

What he's done is potentially catastrophic. Any pretence of US neutrality with regard to Israel/Palestine is now out of the window.

You know Obama has more than double the number of followers on Twitter? I can't imagine it would help - and I'm sure BO hasn't got the appetite or the time - but he has one hell of a platform to shout down some of Trump's stupider ideas.

[toomanyhatz]

More proof that we are living in a surreal nightmare.

I mean - are they this desperate to shift the focus? I think that's got to be it.

[Insouciant Western People]

I'm at a British Council conference in Glasgow, and was at a session today on staff safety and duty of care, run by the BC's Security Director. He had his phone on standby waiting for the confirmation that Trump had made the announcement, because he thought they'd have to close the BC offices in numerous countries because of the risk of the usual headcase fuckwits rioting and attacking their premises in retaliation.

[sloopjohnc]

More proof that we are living in a surreal nightmare.

I mean - are they this desperate to shift the focus? I think that's got to be it.

The funny thing is that you have to select that font to use it. Almost everything defaults to Arial.

[Snarfyguy]

You know Obama has more than double the number of followers on Twitter? I can't imagine it would help - and I'm sure BO hasn't got the appetite or the time - but he has one hell of a platform to shout down some of Trump's stupider ideas.

I admire his restraint. He has a nimble mind and could surely demolish Trump in that arena, but ultimately what would that accomplish? It would just make Trump *more* pissed off and that much likelier to behave like a loose canon, while rallying his base to get that much uglier.

Better O just doesn't engage him.

[naughty boy]

Yeah, I suppose so.

[sloopjohnc]

You know Obama has more than double the number of followers on Twitter? I can't imagine it would help - and I'm sure BO hasn't got the appetite or the time - but he has one hell of a platform to shout down some of Trump's stupider ideas.

I admire his restraint. He has a nimble mind and could surely demolish Trump in that arena, but ultimately what would that accomplish? It would just make Trump *more* pissed off and that much likelier to behave like a loose canon, while rallying his base to get that much uglier.

Better O just doesn't engage him.

I also think that's presidential etiquette. Most presidents keep a low profile in regards to immediate successors.

Obama did vaguely make mention of Trump in a speech in Paris the other day.

[Thang-y]

Obama did suggest the other day that Trump should think before tweeting, which I thought was rather spoilsport of him.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 88026.html

[Milarepa]

You know Obama has more than double the number of followers on Twitter? I can't imagine it would help - and I'm sure BO hasn't got the appetite or the time - but he has one hell of a platform to shout down some of Trump's stupider ideas.

I admire his restraint. He has a nimble mind and could surely demolish Trump in that arena, but ultimately what would that accomplish? It would just make Trump *more* pissed off and that much likelier to behave like a loose canon, while rallying his base to get that much uglier.

Better O just doesn't engage him.

That's the thing. Normally any sane person in public life would just tear him to shreds with reason. But do we really want to piss this guy off? He's got his finger on a button that could end human life. If his little ego gets hurt enough, he'll bring us all down with him before he'd feel an ounce of humiliation.

Trump is the result of an intentional program, over many years, to destroy credibility in our institutions, our values and ultimately in the notion that anything can be objectively true. The goal is to create a large enough population with enough bile to channel for the benefit of the rich and powerful.

I've always thought I could see and appreciate the views of others, knowing that we all want a better world, but may disagree about how to get there. But Trump is a political suicide bomber. Its enough to destroy, if it makes him feel better.

And don't hand me that crap about demolishing society so a better one might emerge from the ashes. Demolish you own house, your own body, your own family if you feel so strongly about it. The rest of us have learned how to compromise, collaborate and move forward. It's not perfect but we're still here.

I don't see how this could and any way but badly, short term. It's like all we can do is keep our own shit together best we can, organize and vote to get him out of power, and hope he implodes under the weight of his own delusions.

[Thang-y]

He's a narcissist and has all the inherent inabilities to see the world in any way other than how it relates to him and his control. With that in mind you can understand all his behaviour. And they made him president.

[Thang-y]

[Jimbo]

This guy make it clear that there are deep connections, collusion, probably, between Russia and Trump. The fugitive gangster living in Trump Tower is a doozy! But what about Russian collusion with the Clintons? Yeah, I know, Trump won (He's the goddamn President!) and Hillary lost. Nonetheless, had she won a similar book could have been written about her too. What am I saying? There are loads of similar books about the Clintons but books not written by a charming and disarming British author but by some slimy FOX News denizen. Still there are pictures of the Clintons and Putin, Bill's paid speeches, donations to the Clinton Foundation, Biden's connections in Ukraine, there are loads of strands which connect them to Russia, strands which have made them very rich. If Russian intelligence is playing Trump they are probably playing a similar game with the Clintons and god knows who else. I, however, want to make it it clear that Trump and the Clintons, and whoever else, should be prosecuted for all this colluding and corruption with Russia and any other other countries which are trying to twist, to buy favorable US policies.

[Davey the Fat Boy]

Anyone else feel the goalposts shifting?

[Jimbo]

Anyone else feel the goalposts shifting?

The guy has some killer evidence which indicts Trump and does connect him to Russia. Nonetheless, hypocrisy and double standards abound. What's worse is how this essentially diplomatic matter is ratcheting up the war machine which not only threatens the world's safety but has the happy side effect of enriching the MIC bastards.

[Snarfyguy]

I, however, want to make it it clear that Trump and the Clintons, and whoever else, should be prosecuted for all this colluding and corruption with Russia...

Anyone else feel the goalposts shifting?

Yeah, wait a minute, Jimbo. I thought that stuff never happened. Do you work for the White House?

1. It never happened.
2. We don't know if it happened.
3. We think it didn't happen.
4. It happened, but it doesn't matter because of blah blah blah, whatever,.

[Jimbo]

blah blah blah, whatever,.