Very Stable Baron wrote:Very Stable Baron wrote:I can't read or respond to everything, but here's the thing: all this is an investigation undertaken by seasoned federal prosecutors. What comes will come either in a report to Congress or in FEDERAL FUCKING COURT. Say what you will about the deep state or political motivations or whatever else, but federal court is no joke, and federal judges, particularly those sitting in DC, are no joke. Whatever comes will be supported by sworn testimony and actual documentation. If there are actual legal proceedings, it will be subject to cross examination and the Rules of Evidence.Jimbo wrote:I tried to read the indictment but failedJimbo wrote:Yeah, they did issue indictments. True. But anyone can be indicted, and if they can get them out of Russia for a trial, we'll see.
Have another try and look at the specific allegations in the indictments. These are things that the Mueller team has a good faith belief they can prove in federal court, within the rules of evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt. "Anyone can be indicted" is a general truism that applies to local yokel hometown prosecutions. This is, as I noted above, FEDERAL FUCKING COURT. Being indicted is never good, but being indicted in federal court by top gun prosecutors is a BAD thing.
I can't take credit for this comeback but on a podcast where the host was taking apart the latest Mueller indictment, where he made the point I had never thought of and then borrowed, how "anyone can be indicted," he cited the Bundy case as an example of how ineffectual federal indictments could be, how after all the legal wrangling all the charges against Bundy were dismissed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/us/b ... issed.htmlA federal judge in Las Vegas dismissed charges against Cliven Bundy and his sons, Ammon and Ryan, on Monday.
Judge Gloria M. Navarro of Federal District Court, in a ruling from the bench, said that the government’s missteps in withholding evidence against the three Bundy family members and a supporter, Ryan W. Payne, were so grave that the indictment against them would be dismissed.
PS I will take another stab at reading the indictment.