Snarfyguy wrote:Paging Jimbo: I don't think there's any actual dispute about the facts here. If you want to debate what the facts mean, then have at it.
Or just let us know you've gone off to some festival or something.
Actually I have been preparing to go to a festival next weekend, Asagiri Jam, a two day outing at the actual foot of Mt. Fuji - unlike Fuji Rock which is nowhere near Mt. Fuji (but it used to be).
The CN link, which I support, above is what you need to debate.
But speaking for myself, I favor detante and cooperation with Russia in these crazy times. Putin is not a mad man nor a crazy killer nor, as Hillary said, "Hitler." For proof of Putin's level headedness and sanity see the hours and hours of the Oliver Stone interview. The dude is cool. But those who choose to not see the goodness of Putin - a substantial section of the US political elite, the NYT and WAPO - they are doing their best to sabotage any chance of detante. Now, is it a fact that "Russia" bought FB ads which sought to influence voters to vote Trump? I know, for instance, TYT (Hillary leaners) reported this as a fact and while admitting it was small potatoes it was, they said, at last, something that proved "Russia's" involvement in the election. Have you seen an ad, even as an illustration in a news story? It's all bullshit. The deep state, the CIA, Pentagon, the merchants of war, they want instability. They prefer war.
A while back Sloop called me out for shouting "War!" (Or "wolf" the Count would say) so often and wondered war, what war? The US isn't at war. I contend that we are lied to so much because, as the saying goes, truth is the first casualty of war.
War, what war?
It isn't WWII, storming French beaches or nuking Japan, but think about today and how many bases we have around the world, how much money we spend on the military, how many secret ops we are running, how many other countries' wars we are backing, all the hi tech surveillance. Jesus, we are not at a shooting war today but we are on a mega-Bigfoot sized war footing. So of course we are being lied to, gaslighted, bamboozled, scapegoating Russia, Muslims, and even Donald Trump. The dude merely says he'd favor good relations with Putin, BAM! And after much cajoling, FB somehow pries from it's gazzilions of zeros and ones something that may be Russia attempting to take over America via some what, Facebook ads? Show me one.