President Donald J. Trump

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 04 Aug 2018, 05:50

A good liar doesn’t simply say the opposite of what’s true all the time; nobody does that. A good liar tells the truth enough of the time to gain a reputation as an honest and trustworthy source of information, and then, when the truth poses an obstacle to their agendas, they put the slightest spin possible on it to nullify that obstacle. They tell half-truths, they omit key pieces of information, and, with really important maneuvers like manufacturing consent for a strategic military destabilization in the Middle East or new cold war escalations against a nuclear superpower, they shift accountability for factual reporting from themselves onto secretive military and intelligence agencies. In this way they keep full control of the narrative and still ensure that the public supports agendas which do not serve the public interest.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 04 Aug 2018, 05:57

Yeah...I miss Robert Parry too.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 04 Aug 2018, 08:08

Some say the glass is half-empty others half-full. I say. "Lemme see that glass!"

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Mike Boom » 08 Aug 2018, 00:34

Don't worry folks, the raging inferno consuming California is due to Gov. Jerry Brown diverting rivers into the Pacific Ocean, and NOT due to any global rise in temp due to the burning of fossil fuels !

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 10 Aug 2018, 16:52

As far as this "negotiating" over Trump sitting for an interview with Mueller's team goes, I sure would LOVE to see Mueller drop a subpoena on the dotard if only because the basis for his presumptive objection -- that he's too busy running the country -- will be so eminently laughable given his 145 days on the golf course as president and his CONSTANT tweeting on the very topics under investigation. If he has time for all that stuff, surely he has time to sit for Mueller.

But of course the claim of executive privilege will inevitably wend its way through the courts, and the GOP is desperate to get Kavanaugh on the bench in time for him to repay the favor of having been nominated.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby LeBaron » 10 Aug 2018, 17:39

I can’t get into it now but I think Kavanaugh’s views about these issues are being misrepresented or distorted by the media and the left. I would vote against him, but not because I thought he was a hack who was going to protect Trump from Mueller (which isn’t exactly what was said, to be fair).

I very much doubt that the Justices are impressed with Trump’s conduct or cavalier attitude at all.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

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Ignore if you must (Davey) that a "jag-off night club comedian" is bringing you the news and hear his guest, whistle blower Bill Binney, explain how Russiagate is a lie and money making scheme for the deep state.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 14 Aug 2018, 03:21

^^^ Where have you been? Putin already admitted he did it.

Game over.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 14 Aug 2018, 03:25

Snarfyguy wrote:^^^ Where have you been? Putin already admitted he did it.

Game over.


Did what? Spy? Binney above says everyone spies. Link please to Putin's admission.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Snarfyguy » 14 Aug 2018, 03:45

Jimbo wrote:
Snarfyguy wrote:^^^ Where have you been? Putin already admitted he did it.

Game over.


Did what? Spy? Binney above says everyone spies. Link please to Putin's admission.

If you watch the video of the news conference provided by the Russian government, or by news outlets such as PBS and the Associated Press, you will hear the Reuters reporter Jeff Mason ask a bombshell of a question: “President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?”

Putin then responds with a bombshell of an answer, according to the English translation of his remarks that was broadcast during the press conference: “Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.”


https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... pt/565385/

Anyway, who's driving "Russia-gate" harder than anyone, with his utter inability to STFU about it? He-who-is-somehow-presidet, that's who.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby mission » 14 Aug 2018, 04:06

One of the positives of this whole shitfest is that more of your traditional Democrats-leaning voters now view "socialism" favourably. US "socialism" being a very timid beast, this is more a necessary correction than anything else but is a step in the right direction.

The big problem is that the Democrats themselves have No Fucking Idea how to sell themselves or a progressive agenda without coming across as condescending cocknozzles who aren't convinced the hoi polloi are to be trusted with anything more complex than eating and, even then, they are undoubtedly eating the Wrong Things.

Given that the DNC was defeated by a human wrestling promo, they need to get some instruction from Jim Cornette.



Get this guy writing some of your ads. At the very least, get Chuck Fucking Cockschmacker away from the Ideas Pit. He has sexfingers when it comes to selling stuff. He fucks everything he touches.

They workshop the very life out of stuff and we are left with Chuck and a sharpie, scribbling nonsense across the heart of all that is good true.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 14 Aug 2018, 04:27

Snarfyguy wrote:
https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... pt/565385/

Anyway, who's driving "Russia-gate" harder than anyone, with his utter inability to STFU about it? He-who-is-somehow-presidet, that's who.




I read your link and there is so much fuzziness there as to whether Putin was answering the first part or second part of the reporter's question, it is hardly an admission. I suspect you saw that too when you reread the piece and so dumped it back onto dumb Donald's lap. Putin admitting favoring Trump over Clinton is as understandable as Putin admittedly favoring Obama over Romney but - even if - Putin would never admit to the bag of bullshit which is Russiagate. And if, Snarfy, you are not by now more skeptical of the the official narrative then may I present you with this Pet Rock of Freedom and Democracy.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Jimbo » 14 Aug 2018, 05:37

The larger point is we are all being played and - as much as i hate to say it - it's at the behest of Israel, NATO expansion and the players who are making money off of the schemes.

Watching a video about the veracity of film Lawrence of Arabia the maker went into some history and it seems the ME is being jerked around today as similarly as its been jerked around for ages. If in Lawrence's day the Arabs had gotten what Lawrence was helping them get (sort of), the entire ME would be Arabia with Damascus its capitol. The Sikes-Picot agreement quashed that and broke the region into manageable (by us) bits.

And Russiagate is a ruse in defense of expanding NATO because every new country added to the alliance means trillions for us.

The Trump loving rednecks described in the video above and I share nothing except we both know the government lies, bigly.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby THE SMOOTH SOUL STYLINGS OF SUMPTUOUS SI » 14 Aug 2018, 08:10

I watched a bit of The Apprentice yesterday - first time. The sack of shit is sitting there with his head even MORE orange than it is now! and he's flanked by his fucking KIDS! How did THOSE fuckwits get to appear? Does everyone jump up and agree to do EVERYTHING DJT wants?
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The Manafort Case

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Re: The Manafort Case

Postby Count Machuki » 14 Aug 2018, 17:52

sneelock wrote:the defense rests! no witnesses!


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They what?! Was their closing argument just a resigned sigh?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 14 Aug 2018, 17:55

CAN wrote:Does everyone jump up and agree to do EVERYTHING DJT wants?


according to Rasmussen, about HALF of the country. :o
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 14 Aug 2018, 18:17

Okay, only 35% “strongly support” but still, it’s mind boggling. The same day he calls somebody paid top dollar by the American taxpayer for a YEAR a “lowlife” and “that dog” he supposedly has the approval of half the “likely voters” in America.

Can “Thunderdome” be far away?
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Re: The Manafort Case

Postby Jimbo » 14 Aug 2018, 19:10

sneelock wrote:the defense rests! no witnesses!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/defense-re ... witnesses/


Ha!

The trial is the first to emerge from special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, but it does not relate to any allegations of Russian election interference or possible coordination with the Trump campaign. Neither Manafort nor Gates have been charged in connection with their Trump campaign work.CBS News


And is not Mueller's mandate to focus on the supposed Russian hacking? From this Lawfare article I see that there is some ambiguity in his mandate order but maybe he may prosecute any federal crimes he finds in his investigation. Nonetheless, his first order is to investigate Russia. That nothing Russia related comes up in the Manafort trial tells me that Robert Perry was right all along, But who knows, right? https://www.lawfareblog.com/scope-muell ... -uncovered

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation;
and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters. . . . .
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Re: President Donald J. Trump

Postby Sneelock » 14 Aug 2018, 19:39

I can't believe you think a guy like Manafort positively OOZING with dirty money, heading the President's campaign should not be a focus of any investigation.

just kidding, I do believe it, I just don't give a shit.
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