Europe? In or out?

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks

Do you want the UK to stay in the EU

Yes
30
83%
Yes - as long as we renegotiate the terms
2
6%
No
4
11%
 
Total votes: 36

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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Conrad Knight Socks » 22 May 2015, 22:28

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It is literally one of the things that makes us human you should try it some time.


We all speculate about the future Copey, just most of us never do it with the same passionate certainty in the face of the odds that you do!

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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Penk! » 22 May 2015, 22:51

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K wrote:Two votes for no. Would like to hear the arguments.


Me too! Where are you?


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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Corporate whore » 23 May 2015, 05:25

In.

Although I think the economic argument is a red herring, we are a net importer of European goods, so a trade war would damage Euorp more than it would damage us.

But there is a more basic reason to be in IMO- If humanity is to survive, there are some major challenges that need to be faced, and the best way to do that is by coming together, not degenerating into small minded nationalism and isolationism. Personally a I would like to see a federal Europe with a common 'bill of rights' or constitution.
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Conrad Knight Socks » 23 May 2015, 07:15

Corporate whore wrote:In.

Although I think the economic argument is a red herring, we are a net importer of European goods, so a trade war would damage Euorp more than it would damage us.

But there is a more basic reason to be in IMO- If humanity is to survive, there are some major challenges that need to be faced, and the best way to do that is by coming together, not degenerating into small minded nationalism and isolationism. Personally a I would like to see a federal Europe with a common 'bill of rights' or constitution.


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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Diamond Dog » 23 May 2015, 07:23

Corporate whore wrote:But there is a more basic reason to be in IMO- If humanity is to survive, there are some major challenges that need to be faced, and the best way to do that is by coming together, not degenerating into small minded nationalism and isolationism. Personally a I would like to see a federal Europe with a common 'bill of rights' or constitution.


Couldn't have put it better, well said Martin.

In the end, this constant cycle of 'in,out' for the UK really bores the shit out of me - just imagine how the Europeans feel, having this raise its ugly head virtually every UK election cycle? Jeez. We're in - let's start acting like responsible members, and not trucculent add ons. Maybe then, we may find we start to exert the influence we seem to so constantly crave.
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Belle Lettre » 23 May 2015, 09:18

Sensible words from everyone.
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Jimbo » 23 May 2015, 10:14

Ah, but think back to old Vienna. And I don't mean old Vienna but old old old old Vienna.*

*Old comedy bit. And I mean an old old old old comedy bit.
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Diamond Dog » 23 May 2015, 10:15

Was it any funnier then?
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Jimbo » 23 May 2015, 10:24

Diamond Dog wrote:Was it any funnier then?


Maybe. I think it was Mel Brooks with a Viennese accent and all those "olds". "Olt olt olt olt olt olt Vienna." (Any funnier?)
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Moleskin » 28 May 2015, 08:32

Do you ever consider voting 'No' just to destroy the UK and see if what comes next is better?
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Penk! » 28 May 2015, 10:28

Diamond Dog wrote:this constant cycle of 'in,out' for the UK really bores the shit out of me


Well you are supposed to "shake it all about" every so often as well.
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby CLOWN » 28 May 2015, 11:34

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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby The Red Heifer » 28 May 2015, 12:05

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Jimbo wrote:How about encouraging Russia to join. And while you're at it how about allowing in Turkey and Israel?

Australia would be the obvious choice.


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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Diamond Dog » 28 May 2015, 12:37

PENK wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:this constant cycle of 'in,out' for the UK really bores the shit out of me


Well you are supposed to "shake it all about" every so often as well.



Yeah, that's what it's all about.
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby yomptepi » 28 May 2015, 15:49

Diamond Dog wrote:
Corporate whore wrote:But there is a more basic reason to be in IMO- If humanity is to survive, there are some major challenges that need to be faced, and the best way to do that is by coming together, not degenerating into small minded nationalism and isolationism. Personally a I would like to see a federal Europe with a common 'bill of rights' or constitution.


Couldn't have put it better, well said Martin.

In the end, this constant cycle of 'in,out' for the UK really bores the shit out of me - just imagine how the Europeans feel, having this raise its ugly head virtually every UK election cycle? Jeez. We're in - let's start acting like responsible members, and not truculent add ons. Maybe then, we may find we start to exert the influence we seem to so constantly crave.


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I think it is a great opportunity for the the case for Europe to me made, and to quiet the half wits who think the answer to everything is to leave. We have contributed hugely to the EEC, and I think it has made The UK a better place. If Cameron can extract a couple of deals on bureaucracy and over spending, and then present the electorate with a glowing case for staying, this might be the end of the squabbling. The end of UkIP, and the finish of some of the more xenophobic MP's who crassly pervert the overwhelmingly good things that Europe is doing and will do as it matures. I believe we are stronger together.
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby Minnie the Minx » 03 Mar 2019, 02:10

Crikey. :(
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Re: Europe? In or out?

Postby yomptepi » 03 Mar 2019, 08:49

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