Owen Jones

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks

OJ

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he's a fucking TWAT
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Owen Jones

Postby ever/never » 26 Mar 2015, 22:08

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Re: Owen Jones

Postby The Prof » 26 Mar 2015, 22:47

Give him 10 or 20 years. Maybe less. I'm not sure he'll be able to resist standing as an MP.

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Re: Owen Jones

Postby jimboo » 26 Mar 2015, 23:00

I don't know who he is :(
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby ever/never » 26 Mar 2015, 23:03

He's a humourless goody-two-shoes right-on mouthy twat of a cunt.

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Re: Owen Jones

Postby clive gash » 26 Mar 2015, 23:05

But how does he like his Chili?

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Re: Owen Jones

Postby The Prof » 26 Mar 2015, 23:06

Unlike Toby Young who is a just an arsehole

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Re: Owen Jones

Postby jimboo » 26 Mar 2015, 23:07

No Prof , he is a cock as well.
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby yomptepi » 26 Mar 2015, 23:10

And don't forget that he is an unapologetic liar, who considers truth an inconvenience if it gets in the way of his message.
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby Marcel Post » 26 Mar 2015, 23:27

He's a bit of a preening know-it-all, but then so are all "media commentators". I'm more in agreement than disagreement with his views so I'm glad there's someone like him out there giving those views an airing in the mainstream media.

I don't know what he's been an unapologetic liar about, but maybe I've missed something.

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Re: Owen Jones

Postby clive gash » 26 Mar 2015, 23:36

I like him, though I do have a innate mistrust of people who are so convinced of their certainty, especially from such a young age. That probably is more a reflection on me though.
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby Insouciant Western People » 27 Mar 2015, 11:06

neville harp wrote:I like him, though I do have a innate mistrust of people who are so convinced of their certainty, especially from such a young age.


I'm the same.

He seems like his heart's in the right place, and he's obviously not stupid. And he'll grow into being less dogmatic and doctrinaire about things. I do admire his drive and passion, he cares, which is important.
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby KeithPratt » 27 Mar 2015, 12:32

Britain does need people like him - unafraid to take on the establishment despite being a bit inaccurate at times. The trad Labour voice has all but disappeared.

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Re: Owen Jones

Postby harvey k-tel » 27 Mar 2015, 14:31

His hair looks confused.
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby yomptepi » 27 Mar 2015, 15:11

Toby wrote:Britain does need people like him - unafraid to take on the establishment despite being a bit inaccurate at times. The trad Labour voice has all but disappeared.


That is very generous. He is a liar. He revels in his dishonesty.

Apart from that I agree his is a voice that we need to hear. I think 90% of what he says is rubbish, but it needas to be said, and it needs to be heard, even if it has no basis in fact or economic reality. It is a shame that the one really passionate young voice the left have is so badly tarnished by his own hubris.
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby hookfinger » 27 Mar 2015, 15:19

I looks like the kind of kid that got locked into his gym locker or dumped in the garbage can in school.
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby Insouciant Western People » 27 Mar 2015, 15:27

yomptepi wrote:He is a liar. He revels in his dishonesty.


Given that it's a serious charge to level against anyone, can you provide examples? Chapter & verse please.
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby Insouciant Western People » 27 Mar 2015, 15:27

Worth remembering that if you can't, he could sue you... ;-)
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby yomptepi » 27 Mar 2015, 17:41

The best documented one, and the one that has been discussed on BCB often was his accusation that the Olympic games were costing 23 billion pounds, and were going to be a total failure. He was taken to task by the Mayor, who could prove the overall cost was £9.3 billion. Despite accepting his figures were fabricated, he said that the numbers were irrelevant, and his point was still a valid one. How you can make a point about the cost of something knowingly using inaccurate figures constitutes a lie.

He has been caught with his pants on fire on other occasions too, but has always insisted that his point was more important than the facts. A touch of the Tony Blair if you ask me...
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby Penk! » 27 Mar 2015, 18:48

yomptepi wrote:How you can make a point about the cost of something knowingly using inaccurate figures constitutes government policy
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Re: Owen Jones

Postby The Modernist » 27 Mar 2015, 19:20

the IAN WHEEL of BEE wrote:He's a humourless goody-two-shoes right-on mouthy twat of a cunt.



He's one of the few high profile writers and commentators openly pushing a socialist alternative. He's eloquent and knowledgeable.
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