US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

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Whose Booze is Best?

USA
8
33%
UK
16
67%
 
Total votes: 24

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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby sloopjohnc » 31 May 2014, 19:29

Matt Wilson wrote:I've drank more beer this year than in the last few years combined. There's so many great craft breweries here now that one can't possibly keep up with them. Even obtaining some of these beers is difficult.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/lists/top/


Not surprising, but interesting to see Pliny the Elder and Younger so high on the list.

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By the way, the Russian River is hour and a half drive north of San Francisco and traditional weekend and summer getaway spot for Bay Area folks.

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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby hookfinger » 31 May 2014, 22:34

Copehead wrote:
Cellar temperature not room temperature :x



Glad to see you point out the difference. It often goes over most people's head. Being a good american and not a beer snob, i tend to like mine colder. But when drinking some decent beers the slighter warmer temps allow more flavors to come through. The same reason you would not serve whisk(e)y on the rocks but simply with a dash of cool spring water.
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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby The Red Nosed Heifer » 31 May 2014, 22:49

Copehead wrote:
The Red Heifer wrote:I am a cold beer man. I remember when I went to England last I had Nick in a fit after I happened to mention on Facebook that I had my Newcastle Brown Ale in an ice bucket. Yeah room temp I get it, but room temp that day was 30 degrees plus :lol:

I prefer English beer but that could be due to the sheer lack of US boutique brews available in Oz. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale though is probably my favourite beer.


Cellar temperature not room temperature :x

I had an Australian Stout the other day that was very moreish, a freebie from my local wine merchant who has started stocking Coopers.

By and large I found their beers underwhelming when I was in Oz but the best of the bunch easily available, too fizzy for ale for a start, but the stout was excellent although at 6.2%, heavy and chocolatey you wouldn't want to drink too many


The Sparkling Ale and the Pale Ale are national treasures over here, not to mention dangerous in regards to the Sparkling :lol:

The Best Extra Stout is a wonderful cooking beer, and apparently tastes even better after a year in the bottle (Coopers bottles come with "Best After" dates after all).
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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby Copehead » 31 May 2014, 23:39

hookfinger wrote:
Copehead wrote:
Cellar temperature not room temperature :x



Glad to see you point out the difference. It often goes over most people's head. Being a good american and not a beer snob, i tend to like mine colder. But when drinking some decent beers the slighter warmer temps allow more flavors to come through. The same reason you would not serve whisk(e)y on the rocks but simply with a dash of cool spring water.


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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby trans-chigley express » 03 Jun 2014, 01:37

I've never had any American craft beers so can only comment on imported mainstream stuff which I don't like and doesn't stand a chance against a wide selection of imported European beers. I did try a Samual Adams Boston Lager yesterday because Griff mentioned it and I saw one in the supermarket. It was fine but reading the label I noticed it had never been anywhere near the US as it was brewed by a Philippines-based brewery. Explains why it was so cheap and not normal imported price. I would still pick a mainstream Japanese beer over it though except for Asahi.

US would win with the wine but I prefer European, Aussi or NZ wines so rarely buy them.

Baron of the Flies wrote:There are, of course, climate issues that could be responsible for different preferences, but I'm not about to defend our cold beer obsession.

You are quite right. The hot weather has kicked in in Hong Kong and only cold beers will be drank for a next few months. My favourite cold beer to drink at home is Fuller's Honeydew which happens to be a UK one.

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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby Six String » 06 Jun 2014, 21:45

Baron of the Flies wrote:Exactly. Cool Coors is the only thing worse than cold Coors.


And warm Coors is against the Geneva Convention.

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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby Deebank » 06 Jun 2014, 21:50

A bar man in Denver told me they put formaldehyde in Coors.
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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby Copehead » 06 Jun 2014, 22:22

Deebank wrote:A bar man in Denver told me they put formaldehyde in Coors.


They certainly put it in the Star beer in Nigeria, worst hangover of my life

They also put it in Tsing Tao in China as well, two bottles with lunch, hangover with supper

I know they put it in to give it a long shelf life in hot countries but who the hell would buy beer that makes you feel like you have cholera after two bottles ?
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Postby toomanyhatz » 07 Jun 2014, 00:22

I think they put formaldehyde in Coors to improve the taste. :lol:

Was it Graham Chapman who said "American beer is like sex in a boat- it's fucking close to water!"?

Disappointed to hear that about Tsingtao, which I sometimes get in Chinese restaurants. It's never troubled me but I usually have just one.
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Postby Minnie Mincepie » 07 Jun 2014, 00:26

toomanyhatz wrote:I think they put formaldehyde in Coors to improve the taste. :lol:



They couldn't make it any worse, anyway...


I had my first Pabst a while back - now that is grotesque.
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Postby trans-chigley express » 07 Jun 2014, 00:40

toomanyhatz wrote:
Disappointed to hear that about Tsingtao, which I sometimes get in Chinese restaurants. It's never troubled me but I usually have just one.

I've never had a problem with Tsing tao either but I have with San Miguel. I had a Tsing tau stout last week which I'd never seen before. I used it to cook a casserole with as I couldn't buy a single bottle of Guinness but had a swig of it before tipping it in the casserole pan and it tasted ok.

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Postby toomanyhatz » 07 Jun 2014, 00:41

Minnie Darling wrote:I had my first Pabst a while back - now that is grotesque.


...And hip as hell right now with millennials. Just how much are young people willing to suffer these days in an attempt to be 'edgy'?
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toomanyhatz wrote:
Minnie Darling wrote:I had my first Pabst a while back - now that is grotesque.


...And hip as hell right now with millennials. Just how much are young people willing to suffer these days in an attempt to be 'edgy'?


I was smashing that Christmas 2012. The reason? It was ridiculously cheap and chilled to near freezing tastes not terrible. When it first came out it was walking out the door so next Christmas they upped the price and no one bought it :lol:
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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby Copehead » 07 Jun 2014, 19:07

trans-chigley express wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote:
Disappointed to hear that about Tsingtao, which I sometimes get in Chinese restaurants. It's never troubled me but I usually have just one.

I've never had a problem with Tsing tao either but I have with San Miguel. I had a Tsing tau stout last week which I'd never seen before. I used it to cook a casserole with as I couldn't buy a single bottle of Guinness but had a swig of it before tipping it in the casserole pan and it tasted ok.


Probably brewed differently for different markets. This was bought in some port town on the Yellow Sea whose name escapes me.

the hotel were obviously not prepared for 40 thirsty Western mariners turning up and sent out for all the beer they could get, there was dust on some of the bottles, but being a Chinese port that doesn't mean too much, there is dust on everything.

Anyway the stuff tasted OK cold, but I had a swig on a warming bottle and it was foul and chemically, so I got another cold one :?

Bad mistake.

If they brew it where it is going to be drunk within weeks I suppose they don't need preservatives, but if it is going to be stored for months they do.
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Re: US v. UK, Round 12: Alcoholic Beverages

Postby Jumper K » 05 Dec 2018, 06:26

You can get Pabst in Tesco now. Its in the craft beer aisle. :lol:

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Postby Hightea » 05 Dec 2018, 15:08

Jumper K wrote:You can get Pabst in Tesco now. Its in the craft beer aisle. :lol:


:lol: you have to kidding me.

First off if you are going to state the whole Uk then I'm adding Mexico and Canada to US side.

This is a tie
Beer:
US: There is the awful major breweries which spit out some of the most vial swill in the world. The only way to even attempt to drink it is extremely cold at a beach bar. The exception are some of the Canadian Brews and I even prefer a piss water Mexican beer if I'm on the beach over the US stuff. Can't think of any UK beer that is good on the beach but I might be forgetting something.
The new micro brewery scene is catching up to the UK but its not there and there is something about them that gives me a headache if I have more than 2. Not that we do that anymore. I don't get the PA craze here not a fan. Also note in the US several beer companies make different beer for different states/export too as there are weird rules regarding % of alcohol and preservatives.
UK - wonderful beers at the right temp too (Cellar temp). I'm a dark/amber/stout beer drinker.
oh course Belgium beers blow both US and Uk out of the water.

Wine:
Does the UK even make wine?
US: easy win here. However, I will note we are not talking Cali wines which I for the most part am not a fan of. My wine of choice is the Oregon Pinot Noir which in my eyes competes with France. Washington State also has some wonderful wines. Also a fan of Rieslings and a few other wines from the NY state Finger Lakes.
European wines would still be my favorite wines and as others have stated New Zealand/South African, Chilean and lots of other off the beaten path make great wines too.

other spirits
UK -Took me a longtime to understand that Whisky is good maybe because in my youth we only had the vile American version.
US: not a vodka drinker anymore but its why I added Mexico I was a big tequila drinker. Love me some Mexican Tequila especially the top line stuff. Also add Rum from the Caribbean.

summing up
Beer - UK
Wine - US
other spirits: tie

end result tie.
If it was Europe vs the Americas : Europe would win.