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Postby Snarfyguy » 18 Dec 2017, 21:50

zoomboogity wrote:
Jimbo wrote:And while we've quickly forgotten the Las Vegas shooting


No, "we" haven't.

(not being in the headlines) ≠ "forgotten"
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Postby Copehead » 18 Dec 2017, 22:19

There was another recent article in the Guardian about Russian state media manipulation but I forgot to link it and cannot be bothered to search it out but if anyone else wants to it will be on the Guardian website somewhere.

But to paraphrase it it said that the Russian troll factories do not push one side of a story very often unless it is directly to Putin's advantage, what they do is make people lose trust in all news media so that they don't know what is true by undermining all sides of a story.

We have a prime example of that in Jimbo, someone who doesn't know what to believe anymore so ends up believing whatever he heard last.

This is really a sign of Russia's weakness rather than its strength, it has been forced to move funds away from the direct projection of power ( where China is now far more of a global force than anyone, even the Sates, when you travel the world it is remarkable how much infrastructure China is building these days ) and move into asymmetric warfare like media trolling.

So far it has been remarkably successful, helping hobble the USA with a moron for president and tying up Europe in years of Brexit negotiations. In fact I bet they cannot believe their luck with how easy it has all been. But that is probably the low hanging fruit gone.
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Postby bobzilla77 » 18 Dec 2017, 23:53

I actually don't know how many people were shot. They tell us 527 people were injured, along with the 58 killed, but were all of those injuries from gunshots? Did the guy actually physically shoot 585 human beings? Or were some of the injuries from people getting knocked over and trampled in the melee? I would imagine the latter must be the case, but I don't know. It's been two months and we still don't even know how many people Paddock shot. Maybe that number is available somewhere but I couldn't find it. How is that possible? How could it be two months after the worst mass shooting in American history and we still don't have a precise and well-publicized casualty count?

And that's just one unanswered question.


Translation: It's impossible to know anything for sure so you may as well believe what you like.
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Postby toomanyhatz » 19 Dec 2017, 00:27

bobzilla77 wrote:It's been two months and we still don't even know how many people Paddock shot. Maybe that number is available somewhere but I couldn't find it. How is that possible? How could it be two months after the worst mass shooting in American history and we still don't have a precise and well-publicized casualty count?


Trying to figure out why on earth this would be important, and how exactly this signifies any kind of proof that there's a conspiracy involved.
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Postby zoomboogity » 19 Dec 2017, 00:37

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Postby Jimbo » 19 Dec 2017, 07:48

It's absolutely head spinning the shit that is done to us by THEM. And you wonder why the US has such a massive drug problem?

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

The secret backstory of how Obama let Hezbollah off the hook.

An ambitious U.S. task force targeting Hezbollah's billion-dollar criminal enterprise ran headlong into the White House's desire for a nuclear deal with Iran.

By Josh Meyer

In its determination to secure a nuclear deal with Iran, the Obama administration derailed an ambitious law enforcement campaign targeting drug trafficking by the Iranian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah, even as it was funneling cocaine into the United States, according to a POLITICO investigation.

The campaign, dubbed Project Cassandra, was launched in 2008 after the Drug Enforcement Administration amassed evidence that Hezbollah had transformed itself from a Middle East-focused military and political organization into an international crime syndicate that some investigators believed was collecting $1 billion a year from drug and weapons trafficking, money laundering and other criminal activities.

Over the next eight years, agents working out of a top-secret DEA facility in Chantilly, Virginia, used wiretaps, undercover operations and informants to map Hezbollah’s illicit networks, with the help of 30 U.S. and foreign security agencies.

They followed cocaine shipments, some from Latin America to West Africa and on to Europe and the Middle East, and others through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States. They tracked the river of dirty cash as it was laundered by, among other tactics, buying American used cars and shipping them to Africa. And with the help of some key cooperating witnesses, the agents traced the conspiracy, they believed, to the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran.

They followed cocaine shipments, tracked a river of dirty cash, and traced what they believed to be the innermost circle of Hezbollah and its state sponsors in Iran.

But as Project Cassandra reached higher into the hierarchy of the conspiracy, Obama administration officials threw an increasingly insurmountable series of roadblocks in its way, according to interviews with dozens of participants who in many cases spoke for the first time about events shrouded in secrecy, and a review of government documents and court records. When Project Cassandra leaders sought approval for some significant investigations, prosecutions, arrests and financial sanctions, officials at the Justice and Treasury departments delayed, hindered or rejected their requests.

The Justice Department declined requests by Project Cassandra and other authorities to file criminal charges against major players such as Hezbollah’s high-profile envoy to Iran, a Lebanese bank that allegedly laundered billions in alleged drug profits, and a central player in a U.S.-based cell of the Iranian paramilitary Quds force. And the State Department rejected requests to lure high-value targets to countries where they could be arrested….
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How Syria's White Helmets became victims of an online propaganda machine

The Russia-backed campaign to link the volunteer rescuers with al-Qaida exposes how conspiracy theories take root: ‘It’s like a factory’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... y-theories
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kewl klive wrote:How Syria's White Helmets became victims of an online propaganda machine

The Russia-backed campaign to link the volunteer rescuers with al-Qaida exposes how conspiracy theories take root: ‘It’s like a factory’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... y-theories


If the UK government is a foe of Assad and a supporter of the so called moderate terrorists (not to mention ISIS itself) how then can the UK government supported White Helmets (“the total value of funds committed between June 2013 and the end of the current financial year (31 March 2016) is £19.7m") be anything but a tool of UK policy - - keeping in mind the entire involvement of the UK and the US in Syria is a fraud. Or maybe you can tell me what legitimate business Britain has in Syria.
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Postby Jimbo » 19 Dec 2017, 16:19

I am sick of hearing the establishment trying to convince us that things are so complicated and hard to understand in order to blind us, silence us, exclude us, exploit us and subjugate us. I mean, where do we even begin the conversation? The premises are lies. Facts are lies. History is a lie. The conclusions, the policies, motives and results are all lies.


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Postby bobzilla77 » 19 Dec 2017, 20:01

Jimbo wrote:
kewl klive wrote:How Syria's White Helmets became victims of an online propaganda machine

The Russia-backed campaign to link the volunteer rescuers with al-Qaida exposes how conspiracy theories take root: ‘It’s like a factory’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... y-theories


If the UK government is a foe of Assad and a supporter of the so called moderate terrorists (not to mention ISIS itself) how then can the UK government supported White Helmets (“the total value of funds committed between June 2013 and the end of the current financial year (31 March 2016) is £19.7m") be anything but a tool of UK policy - - keeping in mind the entire involvement of the UK and the US in Syria is a fraud. Or maybe you can tell me what legitimate business Britain has in Syria.


You were paid in rubles to post that.
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Postby Jimbo » 19 Dec 2017, 23:37

bobzilla77 wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
kewl klive wrote:How Syria's White Helmets became victims of an online propaganda machine

The Russia-backed campaign to link the volunteer rescuers with al-Qaida exposes how conspiracy theories take root: ‘It’s like a factory’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... y-theories


If the UK government is a foe of Assad and a supporter of the so called moderate terrorists (not to mention ISIS itself) how then can the UK government supported White Helmets (“the total value of funds committed between June 2013 and the end of the current financial year (31 March 2016) is £19.7m") be anything but a tool of UK policy - - keeping in mind the entire involvement of the UK and the US in Syria is a fraud. Or maybe you can tell me what legitimate business Britain has in Syria.


You were paid in rubles to post that.


I wish. It's a pretty astute comeback if I do say so myself. :D
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Postby Jimbo » 01 Jan 2018, 08:03

2017 Top Ten Conspiracies

10. The JFK Files

9. Grenfell Tower Fire & Cover-Up

8. The Crisis in Yemen

7. London’s GLADIO-style Attacks

6. Manchester’s ‘Known Wolf’ Arena Attack

5. The Las Vegas Mass Shooting

4. Syria’s Sarin Gas False Flag

3. White Helmets Fraud

2. The Russia-Gate PsyOp

1. ‘Fake News 2.0’

http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/12/31/y ... spiracies/
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Postby Jimbo » 01 Jan 2018, 11:31

This is interesting and explains much about the police inaction during the LV shooting. But is it me, (yes) or am I too far down the conspiracy rabbit hole to accept a fairly logical explanation for what happened? Though they've found collusion between the hotel and the police department, which is paid off to act as a shield against law suits, I still want to see bullet hole and shell casing photos. And as for article's version of Pollak's motive, I ain't buying it. "As for the still unanswered question of why Paddock chose to murder so many people that day, Stubbs (a victim's lawyer) has a theory. “From what I understand, Stephen Paddock did this because he wanted to hurt these casinos financially, and this was the best way he knew how."" In other words, they still don't have a motive.

New Documentary Reveals Major Coverup and Corruption in Las Vegas Police Department, Before and After the Mass Shooting https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-polit ... nt=2168345

Here is a comment from someone who watched the entire doc.

Agenda21truth1 day ago
I purchased a copy thinking I would get more insight into the Las Vegas Shooting. Don't be fooled. Only the last 10 minutes are focused on the Las Vegas Shooting. Although a very good documentary on the corruption of the Las Vegas Metro Police Department/Sheriffs Office you'll only get the parroting of the LVMPD/FBI/MSM narrative that Steven Paddock was the lone gunmen. This documentary does show how Policing the Police as We The People will expose their lawless behavior and how money corrupts absolutely. There are many independent journalists and investigators like Laura Loomer exposing the lie of the lone gunmen theory. Check out Abel Danger to find out how Steven Poddock was recruited by his handler Kristine Marcy and suicided by the same.
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