The Jimbo thread - conspiracies gratefully accepted

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The Jimbo thread - conspiracies gratefully accepted

Postby fueryIre » 04 Jun 2013, 07:01

Well, it kind of keeps all of Jimbo's insane rants in one place the rest of us can easily ignore, doesn't it.

Sorry, Jimbo, you were saying, the Boston Marathon bombing was all a hoax populated by thousands of actors and no one (except you and a couple of other "truthers" noticed?). Good, carry on!
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Postby Jimbo » 04 Jun 2013, 08:26

Well thanks. You will be surprised, I fear, that this will be one of the liveliest threads on the board.

Okay, so I was thinking on my way home that none of you said anything with any substantiality except Hatz who wondered sardonically if I was now some kind of blood splatter specialist, or something, which is a fair question, and of course, I am not. Just as Martha (Watts) is not a psychologist, but she is using her own sense and what she has gleaned to say that conspiracy theorists are a little bit nuts, but we can be sweet, or something. It felt a bit condescending, a back handed compliment perhaps, but, as with most of the other comments so far, insubstantial.

So, back to the blood.

This guy in the spotless yellow shirt is a doctor who said he was in the heart of the blast who witnessed some go down all around him and then helped the most seen victim, the no legs shin bone guy. Again, I am not an expert, but using common sense I'd expect to see his shirt besotted with blood and gore, let along singed, at least, by the blast to which he was so near. But, as you can see, his shirt is clean, as are, please note, the uniforms of all the aides and attendants.

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Postby watts » 04 Jun 2013, 08:42

Jimbo2 wrote: Martha (Watts) is not a psychologist, but she is using her own sense and what she has gleaned to say that conspiracy theorists are a little bit nuts, but we can be sweet, or something.


Actually no. I'm saying a tendency to give credence to conspiracy theories and to see them in such catastrophic events is NOT indicative of mental illness as some have suggested but is rather just a coping strategy of the brain for a certain type of person (typically analytical and cynical and not at all nuts) much like praying is to religious sorts, crying is to emotional sorts, numbness is to others etc...

I THOUGHT it was mental illness...some new complication of OCD in the information age or something...but my readings on the psychology behind them indicated otherwise.

But whatevs.
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Postby Jimbo » 04 Jun 2013, 08:44

Re the not torn banners see how this moment of the blast photo show how in tact they remain and note too that all of those who were standing in front of these indestructible Boston Marathon banners were unhurt - - at all. Even the old guy who fell got up to finish the race. Oh, and you can see the bomb-proof balloons!

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Postby watts » 04 Jun 2013, 08:46

He has blood on his hands. He may not have responded to the guy initially and now that the guys not spurting blood everywhere he's arrived on the scene.

Do you know the timing of his arrival?

His jacket may have been used as a tourniquet.

If I had on a blood soaked jacket, I'd be likely to remove it.
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Postby watts » 04 Jun 2013, 08:51

The thing is...You weren't there. You don't know when the tourniquets were put in place and by whom Jimbo. The purpose them is to insure that you AREN'T spouting blood everywhere...
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Postby Jimbo » 04 Jun 2013, 09:10

watts wrote:He has blood on his hands. He may not have responded to the guy initially and now that the guys not spurting blood everywhere he's arrived on the scene.

Do you know the timing of his arrival?

His jacket may have been used as a tourniquet.

If I had on a blood soaked jacket, I'd be likely to remove it.


He was in the blast zone.

"Allan Panter (say painter), who works as an emergency-room doctor in the North Carolina mountain town of Sylva, was in the center of that welcome when the first bomb went off, no more than 20 feet behind him. He felt the waves and heat (Because that's all the devices gave off?) . He heard screams. He turned and took three steps to his right. The second blast, in front of him now, made him pivot again.

He was unhurt. The smoke thinned.

Moments before he had been standing shoulder-to-shoulder with dozens of happy strangers. Now, all the spectators who had been to his left at the marathon barricade were on the ground, piled on top of each other. The scene, once festive, had been painted with blood and glass. (Oh, that's rich!)

Allan Panter went to work.


Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... rylink=cpy"
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Postby Jimbo » 04 Jun 2013, 10:52

Look, I was doing fine. I saw they caught the two brothers and was hearing less and less on the news and Boston was fading from my realm of thoughts when I heard about the FBI killing that guy they were interrogating. And then I saw the Rachel Maddow clip. The last I paid attention to Rachel Maddow was a few weeks ago when she did a mambo on conspiracy theorists and that got my goat. What mostly bothered me about her commentary was that she sarcastically ascribed final motives to the theories such as the Sandy Hook killings were faked to somehow allow the government to take away all the guns. And maybe some gun nuts feel that way (I wish it were true.) but most of the "conspiracy" sites I visit only point out the anomalies and inconsistencies in the mainstream reporting which then lead us to theorize, to wonder that something other than what we are told by the government and the media is where the truth lies. Yes, sometimes I will speculate on a motive, like here with the fake Boston bombings, that they are an excuse to beef up the already beefy security we see today on the streets of America but I don't know the motive with certainty.

Back to Rachel. So after dumping on conspiracy theorists as she did she comes out with with a piece which comes as close to conspiracy theorizing about the FBI as any I'd heard on TV in a long time. So, inspired I went back on line and was finding reports by online researchers who've given a lot more thought and taken more time than Rachel had to analyze what happened in Boston.

Oh, as to my motives for posting these kinds of hot topics. Indeed, I am pretty sure I will get a lot of negative feedback but that is good. See, too often conspiracy theorists on conspiracy sites are just bantering back and forth, massaging each other. Other sites like the liberal politics sites I like don't allow this kind of topic, 911, 77, etc. So they, too, only reinforce their own beliefs. But BCB Nextdoorland is wide open territory, a place where any of us can say what we like and get slaps on the back or bitch slaps. This place is democracy in action and if you don't like what I say, say so or ignore me. That is what I like about BCB.
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Postby Jimbo » 04 Jun 2013, 11:22

How do you feel about Henry Kissinger? Personally I am not exactly sure about his crimes (Jewish bias?) but he is wanted for war crimes in some countries and was present and in charge of shit through a lot of Americas worst actions in the last 60 years, so here is Luke Rudowski, a noted truther and rabble rousing sort-of journalist calling bullshit to the old man"s face.

[youtube]lOgiZ0PZvvA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Postby sloopjohnc » 04 Jun 2013, 14:24

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Jimbo2 wrote:How do you feel about Henry Kissinger? Personally I am not exactly sure about his crimes (Jewish bias?) but he is wanted for war crimes in some countries and was present and in charge of shit through a lot of Americas worst actions in the last 60 years, so here is Luke Rudowski, a noted truther and rabble rousing sort-of journalist calling bullshit to the old man"s face.

[youtube]lOgiZ0PZvvA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]


Kissingers crimes are well documented. Hitchens, in particular, nailed him to the wall. It has nothing to do with anti-semetism.
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 04 Jun 2013, 15:08

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Kissingers crimes are well documented. Hitchens, in particular, nailed him to the wall.


As did Pilger and a couple of others. The man is a piece of shit.

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Postby Phenomenal Cat » 04 Jun 2013, 16:08

I follwed the link that Jimbo posted on the Boston Bombing page, read through the full seven posts by the site's author (he examines the available photographs and traces the movements of the prime movers at the scene, including those men with the clean shirts) and I admit this Kool Aid ain't bad. Unless every photo this guy is examining is fake, it is VERY hard to fathom how there was supposedly all this blood and carnage (including an inordinate amount of limb loss) and yet there seems to be very little damage to any of the surroundings - including flags, signs, the fences, or the runners who were at best 10 yards away from flying shards of metal. There were reportedly over 250 people injured in this blast. The photos don't indicate a quarter of this number.

I'm definitely not ready to conclude the whole thing was a 'false flag' (because I think the concept is stupid), but I will concede that this just doesn't add up. As for why someone would do something like this in the first place, that's where I'm completely clueless, and all the conjecture in this respect is ridiculous. But like 9/11, there are enough anomolies that someone besides a hyperactive private citizen needs to investigate a little closer.
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Postby Count Machuki » 04 Jun 2013, 17:19

I'm curious to learn more about this, from a 'Louie, Louie' thread:

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Postby Snarfyguy » 04 Jun 2013, 17:36

Phenomenal Cat wrote: Unless every photo this guy is examining is fake, it is VERY hard to fathom how there was supposedly all this blood and carnage (including an inordinate amount of limb loss) and yet there seems to be very little damage to any of the surroundings - including flags, signs, the fences, or the runners who were at best 10 yards away from flying shards of metal.

It seems like you're assuming the "pattern" of the bomb blast should be symmetrical, that is that damage should appear to be spread equally 360 degrees around the center of the explosion. But recall these guys were amateurs. I don't see why more explosive force couldn't have come from one or the other side of the device, making for an uneven spread of force.
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Postby Count Machuki » 04 Jun 2013, 17:46

Snarfyguy wrote:
Phenomenal Cat wrote: Unless every photo this guy is examining is fake, it is VERY hard to fathom how there was supposedly all this blood and carnage (including an inordinate amount of limb loss) and yet there seems to be very little damage to any of the surroundings - including flags, signs, the fences, or the runners who were at best 10 yards away from flying shards of metal.

It seems like you're assuming the "pattern" of the bomb blast should be symmetrical, that is that damage should appear to be spread equally 360 degrees around the center of the explosion. But recall these guys were amateurs. I don't see why more explosive force couldn't have come from one or the other side of the device, making for an uneven spread of force.


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Postby Snarfyguy » 04 Jun 2013, 18:09

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Postby Walk In My Shadow » 04 Jun 2013, 18:41

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Postby Phenomenal Cat » 04 Jun 2013, 18:47

Snarfyguy wrote:
Phenomenal Cat wrote: Unless every photo this guy is examining is fake, it is VERY hard to fathom how there was supposedly all this blood and carnage (including an inordinate amount of limb loss) and yet there seems to be very little damage to any of the surroundings - including flags, signs, the fences, or the runners who were at best 10 yards away from flying shards of metal.


It seems like you're assuming the "pattern" of the bomb blast should be symmetrical, that is that damage should appear to be spread equally 360 degrees around the center of the explosion.


I'm not looking for any pattern. I'm just looking for anything that suggests a shitload of shrapnel went flying around the front of Lenscrafters.
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Postby der nister » 04 Jun 2013, 18:51

These bombs were essentially large pipe bombs
So they will inflict much soft tissue damage
But do not have a large blast radius
Nor the power to really destroy metal, stone, pavement
Depending where they are placed, high or low
They probably only have a five to ten foot range around, above and below
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