Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 1954

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks

your stand on pre-code comics?

they lead to delinquency
1
14%
they rot your brain
2
29%
they are harmless fun
2
29%
they are edifiying
2
29%
 
Total votes: 7

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Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 1954

Postby GoogaMooga » 12 Feb 2013, 04:24

As some of you may know, psychiatrist Fredric Wertham crusaded against the immorality of comic books in 1954, leading to public hearings held by the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Juvenile Delinquency, which effectively neutered the more extreme titles, and brought about the self-imposed Comics Code Authority by the industry: http://news.illinois.edu/news/13/0211co ... illey.html
1966 and all that

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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby Toby » 12 Feb 2013, 09:59

What are pre-code comics?

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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby Thesiger » 12 Feb 2013, 10:25

What are comics?
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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby The Prof » 12 Feb 2013, 10:28

What?

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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby Bungo the Mungo » 12 Feb 2013, 10:31

Seve Ballesteros "played merry hell" with furniture in 1971

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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby der nister » 12 Feb 2013, 10:54

Great article, Goog

Good insights into Coan's character
I am sure he's no stranger to fudging
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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby GoogaMooga » 12 Feb 2013, 11:19

Bleep wrote:What are pre-code comics?


Comics (but not newspaper strips) published before the imposition of the Comics Code in 1954, effectively means comics from 1934 to 1954. This censorship would continue for more than fifty years, and the underground comics of the late 60s and the 70s were a result thereof.
1966 and all that

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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby Toby » 12 Feb 2013, 11:31

Ah ok, so that where's Robert Crumb comes in I guess?

Did I tell you that I had lunch with Crumb once? He lives in Sauve in France and a friend of a friend rents a flat in his house.

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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby GoogaMooga » 12 Feb 2013, 11:33

Bleep wrote:Ah ok, so that where's Robert Crumb comes in I guess?

Did I tell you that I had lunch with Crumb once? He lives in Sauve in France and a friend of a friend rents a flat in his house.


Wow! Lucky man, I've always wanted to meet him. He rarely makes convention appearances.
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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby hookfinger » 12 Feb 2013, 16:51

Bleep wrote:Ah ok, so that where's Robert Crumb comes in I guess?

Did I tell you that I had lunch with Crumb once? He lives in Sauve in France and a friend of a friend rents a flat in his house.


Indeed. What was he like. Very quiet and unassuming I would bet.
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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby Snarfyguy » 12 Feb 2013, 17:03

GoogaMooga wrote:As some of you may know, psychiatrist Fredric Wertham crusaded against the immorality of comic books in 1954, leading to public hearings held by the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Juvenile Delinquency, which effectively neutered the more extreme titles, and brought about the self-imposed Comics Code Authority by the industry: http://news.illinois.edu/news/13/0211co ... illey.html

What an asshole! :evil:

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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby Velvis » 12 Feb 2013, 17:10

Ever since EC stopped publishing Vault of Horror, kids can no longer experience vaults of horror vicariously. As a result, swarms of thrill seeking kids are getting badly hurt, dismembered, killed in their local vaults of horror. Sad, really.
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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby Wally Bingbang » 12 Feb 2013, 17:12

Velvis wrote:Ever since EC stopped publishing Vault of Horror, kids can no longer experience vaults of horror vicariously. As a result, swarms of thrill seeking kids are getting badly hurt, dismembered, killed in their local vaults of horror. Sad, really.


Hey man! Don't you know the first rule of vaults of horror?
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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 195

Postby GoogaMooga » 12 Feb 2013, 17:13

Velvis wrote:Ever since EC stopped publishing Vault of Horror, kids can no longer experience vaults of horror vicariously. As a result, swarms of thrill seeking kids are getting badly hurt, dismembered, killed in their local vaults of horror. Sad, really.


isn't that down to the "Jackass" show more than anything, though?
1966 and all that

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Re: Fredric Wertham "played fast and loose" with data in 1954

Postby OoogieBoogie » 29 Dec 2017, 09:48

What was Crumb like, Toby?