Art. What do you think this means?

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Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Jimbo » 09 Aug 2020, 12:14

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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Jimbo » 09 Aug 2020, 12:18

Kind of reminds me of this. Minus her face and the top of her head, and the hat, too, I guess.

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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Jimbo » 09 Aug 2020, 14:51

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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby robertff » 09 Aug 2020, 16:51

Jimbo wrote:Image




Why does it have to mean anything, why can't it just be about design, shape, form and overall composition?


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Postby Positive Passion » 09 Aug 2020, 17:31

robertff wrote:
Jimbo wrote:Image




Why does it have to mean anything, why can't it just be about design, shape, form and overall composition?


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Yes, it need not mean anything. Another question to ask is what does it make you think about. You might think about design etc, or you might think about damage, or what mouths are for, or can you recognise somone from just their jaw, or questions about identity, usw.

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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Positive Passion » 09 Aug 2020, 17:34

Jimbo wrote:Image


My comments above apply to this too. This picture has obvious historical and religious references, but as well as all that what does it make you think about?

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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Diamond Dog » 09 Aug 2020, 18:27

It makes me think what ridiculous present day conspiracy theory you're going to link these all together to?
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Rayge » 09 Aug 2020, 18:28

Jimbo wrote:Image


Well, it would remind you of Nefertiti as its a fragment of a portrait sculpture of an Egyptian queen (only royalty got sculptures at this time in Egypt) from the Armana period, just before Tutankhamun. As others have said, it doesn't mean anything out of context: for instance, used as it is as the cover illustration of Jean-Phillipe Rameau's Pygmalion album, it references the Greek myth/story of a sculptor who made a statue of a woman out of ivory that was so beautiful he prayed to Aphrodite to bring her to life, and his prayers were answered.: George Bernard Shaw's play Pygmalion updated the myth to that of a teacher who vowed to make a lady out of uneducated lower-class lady, then fell in love with her. This play was then adapted as the musical My Fair Lady.
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

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Diamond Dog wrote:
It makes me think what ridiculous present day conspiracy theory you're going to link these all together to?




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Postby Deebank » 09 Aug 2020, 20:05

She was Ahkenaten’s main wife.

He was interesting in a number of ways. Often credited with being the first monotheist - some even think the template for Moses although he was a few hundred years too early to be the man himself iirc. He got rid of all the established and millennia old gods and their priests, temples etc and made everyone worship the Aten - the Life giving sun god.

He also is reckoned to have had a genetic disease which gave him a strange appearance.

So he is the source of a whole bunch of pseudo- historical conjecture.

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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Jimbo » 10 Aug 2020, 01:44

Rayge wrote: Well, it would remind you of Nefertiti as its a fragment of a portrait sculpture of an Egyptian queen


Thanks for that Ray. I didn't know it was an antiquity. I saw it and immediately thought it was modern art and just something some clever modern artist did with an oddly shaped stone, maybe a portrait of his lady's lovely lips. The lips are lovely.
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Jimbo » 10 Aug 2020, 03:31

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I am reminded of a cleverly titled painting I saw years ago of a hand squeezing a lady's breast called "Honk."

This painting should be called "Ouch."
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Jimbo » 10 Aug 2020, 03:50

Diamond Dog wrote:It makes me think what ridiculous present day conspiracy theory you're going to link these all together to?


Since you are so curious ...

Modern art was CIA 'weapon'

Revealed: how the spy agency used unwitting artists such as Pollock and de Kooning in a cultural Cold War

For decades in art circles it was either a rumour or a joke, but now it is confirmed as a fact. The Central Intelligence Agency used American modern art - including the works of such artists as Jackson Pollock, Robert Motherwell, Willem de Kooning and Mark Rothko - as a weapon in the Cold War. In the manner of a Renaissance prince - except that it acted secretly - the CIA fostered and promoted American Abstract Expressionist painting around the world for more than 20 years. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 78808.html
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Diamond Dog » 10 Aug 2020, 14:03

Jimbo wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:It makes me think what ridiculous present day conspiracy theory you're going to link these all together to?


Since you are so curious ...

Modern art was CIA 'weapon'

Revealed: how the spy agency used unwitting artists such as Pollock and de Kooning in a cultural Cold War

For decades in art circles it was either a rumour or a joke, but now it is confirmed as a fact. The Central Intelligence Agency used American modern art - including the works of such artists as Jackson Pollock, Robert Motherwell, Willem de Kooning and Mark Rothko - as a weapon in the Cold War. In the manner of a Renaissance prince - except that it acted secretly - the CIA fostered and promoted American Abstract Expressionist painting around the world for more than 20 years. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 78808.html


What? The CIA tried to implant decadent Western culture into the psyche of the Iron curtain countries?!

Gee - who knew?
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Jimbo » 10 Aug 2020, 15:35

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What? The CIA tried to implant decadent Western culture into the psyche of the Iron curtain countries?!

Gee - who knew?


The art the CIA was peddling was the kind of art that most people thought was shit. "My kid could do better art." We had to be taught that those massive Pollock doodles was good art. And rich buyers had to be sold on the idea that this was good art. And like rubes at a freak show they bit the bait and bought big time.

And with success selling shit art what else, what other shit has the CIA sold us over the years? Pretty much everything you see on TV, in the movies on the news has the CIA's wink and a nod approval. Thanks for the art CIA!
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Diamond Dog » 10 Aug 2020, 17:23

You start off by saying the CIA used unwitting artists such as Pollock and de Kooning in a cultural Cold War.
Then that they were convincing Americans such as yourself that it was great art?
So who were they trying to pervert - American kids of Eastern European kids - in their 'cultural cold war'?
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Positive Passion » 10 Aug 2020, 17:39

Pollock's giant webs are great art.

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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Jimbo » 11 Aug 2020, 04:24

Positive Passion wrote:Pollock's giant webs are great art.


I thought so too but now in my crotchety conservative years and giving the matter a bit of thought, I don't think so. It's art, I guess, in that it'll cover a wall quite nicely but great? I contend we only accept it as great when we involuntarily entered the "new normal" of the 50s and 60s when "art" became a religion. Dad, no fool he, said to me, "Son, Picasso could shit on a board and sell it for a million bucks."

And a germ of a thought re "the elite." Conspiracy folk go on about an elite running the world. If any pursuit is associated with an elite it's art and art collecting. By and large this elite is rich as fuck and if one of this elite proclaims this or that art "great" then, like its been touched by God, shazaam! It's great! And worth a lot of money.
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Re: Art. What do you think this means?

Postby Fonz » 11 Aug 2020, 09:21

Keith Haring was a South American CIA black ops dude.
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