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Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 13:34
by Samoan
:? :(

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 13:36
by Diamond Dog
:)

I think Jane's letter reaching his parents is the most likely explanation.

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 13:46
by The Modernist
Diamond Dog wrote::)

I think Jane's letter reaching his parents is the most likely explanation.


Yes I'm sure. They were back on-line about a minute ago very briefly.

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 13:47
by Penk!
Modernist The Duck! wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote::)

I think Jane's letter reaching his parents is the most likely explanation.


Yes I'm sure. They were back on-line about a minute ago very briefly.


It would seem to make sense.

I wonder what they make of "shopping lists of loons".

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 13:49
by Django
Twist and Penk! wrote:I wonder what they make of "shopping lists of loons".


I wonder what they'll make of the last page of this thread. :roll:

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 13:53
by Evil Dave
Django, God love him. wrote:Could be his parents have received Jane's letter and are having a look at the site, and he left himself logged on at the computer?


The letter would have arrived today...I think this is the most likey reason.

Sorry...Dave is still logged in...I'll log out into my own name now :oops:

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 14:29
by Tom Violence
For those who may be confused this is Alastairs father, Alan. I dont know how the system works so my apologies if there is duplication. We received Janes kind and touching letter this morning and we are overcome by the correspondance we have read. Joy (mum) and Iain (brother) and I have struggled to come to terms with this tragedy but we are grateful for the 25 years Ali gave us. It is comforting to know he had so many friends on BCB. I have noticed donations on the Justgiving website and I thank you for those too. We will all miss him

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 14:55
by Django
I think Martha speaks for all of us, Alan. Thank you for coming to visit us.

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 14:58
by sensi
I've bumped the York jolly up thread so Ali's parents may...if they wish...go and see the great night we had together.

Just go to the jolly up section...click on North East jolly York 15th March and it's from page 11 onwards.

It was Mick's birthday (the lad in the string vest) it was the best jolly up I've ever attended...and I'm not just saying that...we were there all day and we even got a free round of drinks off the owners of the pub...the photographs reflect how close we all are.

Jane x

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 14:59
by Phil T
Hi Alan, thank you for coming on BCB, an emotionally brave move at this terrible time. As the father of two children only slightly younger than Alastair, I can truly sympathise. What a terrible tragedy.

All I can simply say is that we are thinking of you and your family right now.

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 15:04
by The Modernist
I can only echo what others have said and all our wishes and prayers go out to you, Joy and Iain in this terrible time for you.
I'm also sorry for sending off a rather panicky pm when I saw the username on screen, I hope it wasn't taken as too insensitive. :oops:

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 15:12
by Diamond Dog
Tom Violence wrote:For those who may be confused this is Alastairs father, Alan. I dont know how the system works so my apologies if there is duplication. We received Janes kind and touching letter this morning and we are overcome by the correspondance we have read. Joy (mum) and Iain (brother) and I have struggled to come to terms with this tragedy but we are grateful for the 25 years Ali gave us. It is comforting to know he had so many friends on BCB. I have noticed donations on the Justgiving website and I thank you for those too. We will all miss him


Well, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that's the bravest post I've ever seen on here -and the most heartwarming, in its own way.

Take care Alan, Joy & Iain - and, as already suggested, don't hesitate to ask if there's anything we can do. I hope you get some idea of the regard your son was held in, on BCB.

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 16:16
by no one
Diamond Dog wrote:Well, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that's the bravest post I've ever seen on here -and the most heartwarming, in its own way.


yes, it is and you do speak for me, definitely......just this morning, i got into another discussion with my mother, who can't understand this whole 'Internet thing'....no matter how i try to explain to her that there are real people typing these words onto this webpage, and that we do meet up in 3D which proves that we're not simply typing mannequins and that it's easy to care for the screen names you see in front of you, she just can't grasp the concept; she balks....so it moves me deeply to see this parent - who has just suffered an unimaginable loss so recently - log onto his son's account to acknowledge the rest of us here....

Alan, i hope that you find enjoyment reading your son's posts and can get a chuckle out of some of the things he's said on here....it's clear to see how passionate he was about music, and he knew what he liked and disliked...you and your family have my deepest condolences....

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 17:12
by Piggly Wiggly
I'm horribly sorry, Alan.

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 19:16
by ConnyOlivetti
I'm really proud to be a member of this board
reading all this and trying to understand...
and comprehend the terrible fact of life
I'm really moved by all this and reading this again,
and this recent post from Alan makes me going in to tears again.
dont know why I'm so moved by it all
but it says a lot of this board, the connection you get without
really knowing any of you all.

take care friends
and I'm terribly sorry for your lost Alan

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 19:39
by Uncle Spellbinder
I just heard the news from Dick Of BCB. I'm at a loss for words. Condolences to the family.
He will be missed greatly by his extended BCB family. I'm quite speechless.....

:cry:

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 22:21
by Jock
Alan
Please keep in touch. I knew Ali only briefly through the Neon Tetra board, and i gave him the nod about BCB. I'm glad he took me up on it, because I knew he was a real music buff, and he would be right at home. I just wish i'd been at some of the JU's he attended. He was a real pal. I'm 53 years old. Maybe older than yourselves?

Jock

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 30 Aug 2008, 22:26
by yomptepi
God this thread is so sad.....

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 31 Aug 2008, 00:19
by Leg of lamb
I too remember him very fondly. He had such gentle wit and tremendous honesty. He knew what he liked and I often found his posts a refreshing alternative to those from slightly older people on BCB. I remember a thread of his asking about Green Day, Blink 182 and all those other skate punk bands who were bound to get short thrift on a board like this. But he wasn't satisfied with received opinion - he really wanted to probe into them, in case he missed out on something that he might love as much as the Buzzcocks.

I loved the way he referred to albums with marks out of 10. You could tell that he had his thoughts very worked out - yet he was never overbearing or aggressive in giving his opinion. Sadly, I can only imagine how great his company would be over a pint at the York JU.

Also - and I hope that this isn't too self-indulgent - but this has hit me hard because Ali was one of the few people on BCB who I felt was of my generation. There's only about ten of us on here perhaps, and we find a great, stimulating place to exchange opinions and banter with adults. We're never patronised (or at least very rarely) - you have to hold your own and muck in, and you're only going to get something out of the place if you're a bright and witty person. As Ali so clearly was.

So many of my thoughts are about thwarted opportunity right now. I know nothing about depression; I can only imagine its cold, harsh hold on sufferers and their loved ones. He had so much potential and it was just quashed by shitty circumstances.

Rest in peace mate. I'm so gutted that I never got to call you Ali and that you've only fully opened up to me as a person in hindsight. I think we could have been great mates.

God bless to you, Alan and family. Please take care.

Re: Pretty Boy Floyd R.I.P.

Posted: 31 Aug 2008, 20:15
by Butch Manly
The Airborne Toxic Giraffe wrote:I firmly believe that one of the most important aspects of any life is the mark you make. I've suffered from depression myself in the past (and, in some ways, it's still there, lurking still) but I realised a long time ago that I tend to define myself by the friendships I have as much as anything else. I find self-worth in how others view me as much as from my own concept of self. I'm not completely self-contained and I'm glad I'm not. I'd hate to be a complete arsehole.

Alistair had so much to offer. He was a good and kind person and he had a positive impact on many around him, certainly on this board - this thread proves that much. It may well be that BCB was a respite for him. A chance to escape what he saw as the reality of his situation. I can certainly remember retreating to here five years ago when my personal life was falling apart. You'd have thought, five years ago, I was the happiest guy in the world, reading my jokey/passionate/flippant/celebratory posts. The truth was, this place was a refuge for me as much as anything else. Somewhere I could forget who I really was at the time.

Maybe Ali was the same, or at least similar. It's patently obvious he had his inner demons - he was quite open about it on numerous occasions - and yet his general demeanour on here was combative, humorous, matey, self-assured, generous....

I'm rambling (it's been a tough day for me). hopefully, there's some sense in what I've tried to say.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that any life is a balance between what you perceive yourself to be and what you are to others. Ideally, you have both a confidence in yourself and a humility and a consideration for others.

You know, I can't quite express what I mean.


I think what I was probably trying to say was that Ali had a more positive impact on others in his life than he ever knew. Something like that, anyway.

I'm glad his family saw this thread so that they could get at least some idea of how liked he was around here.