Scariest Ever Films (Guardian List)

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Scariest Ever Films (Guardian List)

Postby Darkness_Fish » 07 Jun 2018, 12:56

Any comments on this list: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/j ... hereditary

It seems to misunderstand the concept of Audition, imo, Peeping Tom is utterly risible, but I'm always pleased to see The Babadook and The Innocents getting mentions. I've never really cared for Rosemary's Baby, either, it just comes across a bit silly, in my view.
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Postby Rayge » 07 Jun 2018, 13:06

Darkness_Fish wrote: I've never really cared for Rosemary's Baby, either, it just comes across a bit silly, in my view.

Yep. Repulsion, though, was generally scary and shocking. And great as Don't Look Now is, it's hardly a taut suspense thriller, is it, with one genuine shock in its whole length – no more so than, say, Performance?
And there's a few films from the 40s - Val Lewton comes to mind - that manage to be scarier than many of the others on the list that I've seen, but especially The Wicker Man, which I found not remotely frightening (my memory of it is as a sort of perverse Hammer-style sex comedy)
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Postby Samoan » 07 Jun 2018, 13:10

Darkness_Fish wrote:Any comments on this list: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/j ... hereditary

I wouldn't really put Don't Look Now or The Wicker Man in there.
They are deeply, darkly, mesmerising cult films in their own right and justifiably so but I Would put Hannibal, the 2001 film.
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Postby Darkness_Fish » 07 Jun 2018, 13:41

Samoan wrote:I Would put Hannibal, the 2001 film.

Really? I'm pretty sure I have seen it, but I don't recall much about it. Then again, I'm not really a fan of that franchise.
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Postby Darkness_Fish » 07 Jun 2018, 13:45

If I was putting my horror-geek hat on, and picking some less well-noticed films, I'd add Housebound which has some genuinely creepy moments, as well as being very bloody funny indeed. And the very low-budget Hell House LLC, which I thought handled the 'found footage' concept better than most (by cheating a bit, probably), but it handles the horror by being unnerving, rather than jump-scares and gore.
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Postby driftin » 07 Jun 2018, 19:11

Most of the usual suspects there, not that there's anything wrong with that, plus some highly acclaimed modern ones like Hereditary, Get Out, and It Follows which were good, perhaps even really good, but I'd much rather see a film like Under the Skin on the list instead. It's more unique, elliptical, and strange and its horror is much more piercing and memorable than the usual ghosts and ghoulies. The beach scene alone is one of the creepiest things I have ever seen in any film.

The lack of The Thing is criminal too.

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Postby Darkness_Fish » 07 Jun 2018, 21:36

driftin wrote:The lack of The Thing is criminal too.

I never rated that film, either. I've always found it slightly boring, with rubbish effects.
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Postby Goat Boy » 07 Jun 2018, 22:54

Darkness_Fish wrote:
driftin wrote:The lack of The Thing is criminal too.

I never rated that film, either. I've always found it slightly boring, with rubbish effects.


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Postby Pansy Puff » 07 Jun 2018, 23:12

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driftin wrote:The lack of The Thing is criminal too.

I never rated that film, either. I've always found it slightly boring, with rubbish effects.


I’m used to your music posts making no sense but this takes the biscuit.

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He can only be talking about a different film to the utterly perfect Carpenter film from 1982. My wife's out on Saturday night and I think I've just chosen a film to watch (again).
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Postby Nuts » 08 Jun 2018, 09:43

John Carpenter's The Thing is one of the best - never get tired of watching it and the effects are great. So much better than all the cgi stuff you get nowadays.
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Postby trans-chigley express » 08 Jun 2018, 15:11

I'm surprised Don't Look Now is even on the list never mind number 1. I like it but it's NOT scary at all.
Suspiria is a little overated I think. I found it a bit disappointing when I finally got to see after hearing of its reputation.
The original 1963 version of The Haunting should be on the list. The Thing and The Omen are two other big omissions and I really like Rosemary's Baby.

There's quite a few I've never seen, which is surprising given that I love horror movies.

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Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Jun 2018, 15:59

I've never got the love for Don't Look Now either. The dwarf does not creep me out, and the film drags.

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Postby driftin » 08 Jun 2018, 16:06

I'm usually on Fish's side for most things, especially music, but not this time. He couldn't be more utterly wrong.

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Re: Scariest Ever Films (Guardian List)

Postby driftin » 08 Jun 2018, 16:08

Oh, another major omission is Spoorloos (aka. The Vanishing). No sudden loud noises, no on screen killing or gore, I think it's even a 12A or PG-13, yet it's so much creepier and tenser than most 15 and 18 rated horror classics.

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Postby Goat Boy » 08 Jun 2018, 16:09

Scary is one of these words I don't understand when we are talking about horror films sometimes. It seems quite reductionist, ephemeral, limiting, especially when we are talking about films that haunt and get under your skin, you know? I think Don't Look Now is one of those films that really haunts. It's an existential horror that reminds us that our lives can end in such a random, bizarre moment that is actually more horrifying than any number of other "horror" movies that may provide jump scares and brief moments of awfulness but fail to deliver something so insidious and profound. The dwarf is Death, shaking her gnarly head and reminding us that we don't get to chose that moment, it just happens and there's fuck all you can do about it. What's scarier than that?
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Postby Goat Boy » 08 Jun 2018, 16:09

driftin wrote:Oh, another major omission is Spoorloos (aka. The Vanishing). No sudden loud noises, no on screen killing or gore, I think it's even a 12A or PG-13, yet it's so much creepier and tenser than most 15 and 18 rated horror classics.


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Postby Hightea » 08 Jun 2018, 22:16

driftin wrote:Oh, another major omission is Spoorloos (aka. The Vanishing). No sudden loud noises, no on screen killing or gore, I think it's even a 12A or PG-13, yet it's so much creepier and tenser than most 15 and 18 rated horror classics.

did realize the american version was a remake have to see if I can find the original to watch I'm sure its way better.

In regards to horror movies, we always find real life horror movies or movies that can actually happen as more scary then some fictional never going to happen in real life movie.

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Postby joels344 » Yesterday, 01:46

driftin wrote:Oh, another major omission is Spoorloos (aka. The Vanishing). No sudden loud noises, no on screen killing or gore, I think it's even a 12A or PG-13, yet it's so much creepier and tenser than most 15 and 18 rated horror classics.


That film is utterly terrifying and one that really stays with you.

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Postby joels344 » Yesterday, 02:04

I would add Possession (the 1981 film) to that list. It’s about a crumbling marriage, which is typical in drama films, but the surrealism, intensity, body horror elements, and general sense of madness captured throughout the film make for an absolutely frightening experience at times. Plus, the acting job by Isabelle Adjani is hypotonic and unforgettable.