2001: A Space Odessey turns 50
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I didn't really like The Shining either. I liked it at first, when it was more of an exploration of childhood premonitions/family trauma, but when Jack starts to go wacko, it became a lot less interesting. Some great shots cinematically, but didn't love it.
I agree that Kubrick was brilliant, but Full Metal Jacket and definitely Eyes Wide Shut made me think he had lost it. His '50s, '60s, and '70s were fantastic.
I agree that Kubrick was brilliant, but Full Metal Jacket and definitely Eyes Wide Shut made me think he had lost it. His '50s, '60s, and '70s were fantastic.
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Weston Drury, Jnr. wrote:Davey the Fat Boy wrote:I don’t begrudge anyone the right to dislike a film. But generally when you are in the realm of Kubrick films, the deficit isn’t on the part of the movie. I never really got that much from Full Metal Jacket, but I fully accept that it is a good film.
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Eyes Wide Shut is not a good movie.
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Quaco wrote:I didn't really like The Shining either. I liked it at first, when it was more of an exploration of childhood premonitions/family trauma, but when Jack starts to go wacko, it became a lot less interesting. Some great shots cinematically, but didn't love it.
I agree that Kubrick was brilliant, but Full Metal Jacket and definitely Eyes Wide Shut made me think he had lost it. His '50s, '60s, and '70s were fantastic.
The Shining is wonderful. Think of it as a possession movie.
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toomanyhatz wrote:Eyes Wide Shut is not a good movie.
I disagree. We had a thread about it at one point, but I can’t find it.
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Quaco wrote:Rayge wrote:Kubrick struck me back then as a miserable fucker with a nasty outlook on life, and I've never had a reason to change that view.
I can see how some of his movies (Barry Lyndon, The Shining) might leave you with that feeling, but 2001 -- mankind does evolve -- and A Clockwork Orange -- people are people and society should never try to change that -- both seem pretty optimistic or at least neutral.
It's not the stories, it's his aesthetic, and the way I perceive his personality and world view through the making of his films, of which I've seen only a few. The ones I did see, though, usually left me feeling worse when I left the cinema than when I went in. I thought Clockwork Orange was dreadful and reveled in imagined cruelty and a dripping contempt for humanity, that Dr Strangelove was amusing and horrid in about equal proportions, Lolita was dull, monochrome and ugly as sin, and Spartacus, well, Spartacus was all right. I never bothered with any of the others, at least in part because I was so alienated by the ones I did see, Orange and Odyssey in particular.
It's just an opinion, of course, and I don't see the point of trying to defend it further
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Rayge wrote: Orange and Odyssey in particular.
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The Modernist wrote:Rayge wrote: Orange and Odyssey in particular.
The great lost British psychedelic classic.
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Goat Boy wrote:Quaco wrote:I didn't really like The Shining either. I liked it at first, when it was more of an exploration of childhood premonitions/family trauma, but when Jack starts to go wacko, it became a lot less interesting. Some great shots cinematically, but didn't love it.
I agree that Kubrick was brilliant, but Full Metal Jacket and definitely Eyes Wide Shut made me think he had lost it. His '50s, '60s, and '70s were fantastic.
The Shining is wonderful. Think of it as a possession movie.
I watched The Shining at the cinema during a season of Kubrick movies that were being shown a couple of years ago and seeing it on the big screen gave me an even greater appreaciation of it. I think his movies are made for the big widescreen for total immersion.
I hated Eyes Wide Shut and wish his final movie was AI instead. Spielberg made a decent stab at it adopting a Kubrick style but I think it was made to be a Kubrick movie and could have been a final masterpiece to remember him by rather than the reputation tarnishing Eyes Wide Shut.
2001 is my favourite movie of all.
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I don't think Eyes Wide Shut is as bad as it's made out. I'd rather watch poor Kubrick than anything by that nonce suit wearing Wes Anderson.
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I felt guilty that I found something to say about the "Roseanne" reboot but hadn't bothered to write anything in a 2001 thread.
I just read this review of a current book and I enjoyed it.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018 ... t-was-made
the writer describing being in his grandfather's 80's Chrysler made me feel old but he said this...
which made me chuckle. I'm the guy who likes pretty much everything the guy did. I remember Rod Steiger telling Bob Costas on TV that the very qualities which made him a basket case as a person made him suited to being an actor. I think those of us who rank him WAY up there feel a similar thing about Kubrick. I'm sure we could rattle off a list of emotional problems and would be sure to hit the bullseye at least once. the dude was clearly OCD at the very least. for whatever reason I think he was a very talented and singular artist in his chosen field. while SK made "pop culture" I think, of all his films, this is the easiest to call art. you look at it and it speaks to you or it doesn't. it certainly speaks to me and it does my heart good to know it speaks to people whose grandfathers drove 80's Chryslers.
I just read this review of a current book and I enjoyed it.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018 ... t-was-made
the writer describing being in his grandfather's 80's Chrysler made me feel old but he said this...
Kubrick was incapable of not making Kubrick films
which made me chuckle. I'm the guy who likes pretty much everything the guy did. I remember Rod Steiger telling Bob Costas on TV that the very qualities which made him a basket case as a person made him suited to being an actor. I think those of us who rank him WAY up there feel a similar thing about Kubrick. I'm sure we could rattle off a list of emotional problems and would be sure to hit the bullseye at least once. the dude was clearly OCD at the very least. for whatever reason I think he was a very talented and singular artist in his chosen field. while SK made "pop culture" I think, of all his films, this is the easiest to call art. you look at it and it speaks to you or it doesn't. it certainly speaks to me and it does my heart good to know it speaks to people whose grandfathers drove 80's Chryslers.
For me, the most astounding moment of the film is a coded tribute to filmmaking itself. In “The Dawn of Man,” when a fierce leopard suddenly faces us, its eyes reflect the light from the projection system that Kubrick’s team had invented to create the illusion of a vast primordial desert. Kubrick loved the effect, and left it in. These details linger in the mind partly because they remind us that a brilliant artist, intent on mastering science and conjuring science fiction, nevertheless knew when to leave his poetry alone.
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Tried to watch again last weekend. I bought it off Sky cinema (UK Cable station) it only downloaded 27 min. I took it as a sign.
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Dr Markus wrote:Tried to watch again last weekend. I bought it off Sky cinema (UK Cable station) it only downloaded 27 min. I took it as a sign.
A sign that you were only evolved enough to watch the caveman parts, maybe??
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Quaco wrote:Dr Markus wrote:Tried to watch again last weekend. I bought it off Sky cinema (UK Cable station) it only downloaded 27 min. I took it as a sign.
A sign that you were only evolved enough to watch the caveman parts, maybe??
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It's on again at the cinema in June so I'll have to go.
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If you spark up in the cinema, you might only last 27 minutes too.
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