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Re: BCB's Top 50/100 TV shows

Postby Rayge » 28 Feb 2018, 10:43

Goat Boy wrote:Some 80s films I enjoy...

Cheers Dougie, here's what I think (and apologies for any errors, I didn't fact check, relied on memory, always a dangerous game at my age).

The shining - Never seen, because it's a horror movie (see below) and JN is a pathetic ham
The Elephant Man - Seen on TV. Not keen. Thought John Hurt was a bit mannered, but basically the same problem with this as with Eraserhead - direction was alienating
Airplane! - Seen on TV several times. One of the really great comedy films, brilliant
Fanny and Alexander - only seen once on TV. I know that Bergman considers it his best film, but nothing comes close to Cries and Whispers for me – which is not to say F&A is not a very fine movie, it's just a bit quiet sand contemplative and muted rainbows after the sex and religion blood storm of C&W
Raging Bull - Never seen
King of Comedy - Never seen
Raiders of the Lost Ark - enjoyable pop trash with a huge hole in the story line, viz that Indy actually does nothing to advance the plot. Without him the Nazis still find the Ark, open it and die (this insight courtesy of A F Fowler)
Das Boot - saw the TV miniseries, which I enjoyed, in a masochistic way (I'm claustrophobic)
The Thing (in fact lots of great and occasionally funny horror films: Evil Dead 1 and 2, Reanimator, Videodrome, The Fly, The Entity, Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer etc) - I heartily dislike horror movies and have not intentionally seen one since the 1960s. I did see Henry, which I would not class as a horror movie, on TV, and liked it. Come to think of it, the preponderance of horror and slasher movies is one reason I went off cinema in the 1980s
Akira - never seen whole movie, odd bits look great, will watch if it ever comes on TV
Bladerunner - seemed to me like a police procedural with twiddly bits. Wasn't overly impressed. And Harrison Ford always strikes me as a bit wooden. A fine mahogany perhaps, but definitely ligneous
Fitzcarraldo – Never seen, by choice. Not keen on German cinema
Once Upon A Time In America - seen a couple of times on TV. A great, immersive sprawl of a movie. Really very fine in my view
Withnail and I - seen on TV. I don't find it as amusing as some. It's got a faint air of Carry On Resting about it. REG is at least mildly annoying in everything
Amadeus - a biopic of Mozart in a Ken Russell stylee. I should fucking coco. Never seen
Paris, texas - saw once on TV. Can't remember a thing about it except HDS looking mournful
Spinal Tap - seen on TV, more than once. Pretty funny, but ultimately a bit short and in-jokeish
Ran - Never seen
Come and See - never heard of it
Blue Velvet - saw on TV. First Lynch film I actually enjoyed, and not just for the Orbison, but his best work was yet to come. On TV :)
Manhunter - saw this on TV, I think. This is the Lecter film with Gus Grissom as the FBI guy? It's all right. Enjoyed it more than Silence of the Lambs, anyway
The Vanishing - Never seen
Do The Right Thing - Never seen
Aliens - Never seen any of the franchise. Horror films. Just say no
Local Hero - Yeah, that's a goodie. I like Forsyth's stuff. Gregory's Girl I enjoyed a little bit more, mind.

So, yeah, some great films there and a few clunkers (IMO). Thanks for the list, seriously – I'd forgotten some of those, or put them in another decade.
But it still stands that Cheers (275 episodes) and Hill Street Blues alone, every episode watched at least half a dozen times, never mind MOTD, Gardener's World and all those US sitcoms I listed, gave me much more viewing pleasure in the decade than all the good ones put together. That's all I'm saying.
Oh, and Airplane reminds me that Police Squad was an ’80s thing, and that contains more belly laughs just about than Airplane, because it's long form and the continuing gags get to develop.
And Dallas was a great piece of TV.
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Re: BCB's Top 50/100 TV shows

Postby watts » 28 Feb 2018, 11:41

I'm having a hard time eliminating stuff from 53 down to 30.
I can't decide whether to go for favorites that are unlikely to have any other fans here or a canon of inarguable greatness...
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Re: BCB's Top 50/100 TV shows

Postby Goat Boy » 28 Feb 2018, 12:19

You should watch Ran and Come and See, Rayge. Both great films
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Re: BCB's Top 50/100 TV shows

Postby caramba » 28 Feb 2018, 12:19

watts wrote:I'm having a hard time eliminating stuff from 53 down to 30.
I can't decide whether to go for favorites that are unlikely to have any other fans here or a canon of inarguable greatness...


The reason why some shows you love might not have fans here is that posters might not know about them. You could always create
an alias and post both lists - guaranteed you won't be the only person here to do so

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Re: BCB's Top 50/100 TV shows

Postby driftin » 28 Feb 2018, 13:43

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PENK wrote:Get your lists in to me, everyone! I’ve already had lists from four posters and so far our leading shows are a Michael Gira concert and a documentary about Coil.

I would like to know what those two are because I want to watch them.


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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk

Postby PENK » 01 Mar 2018, 20:16

A few clarifications:

"Anthology" series or series with changing casts/stories/settings will be counted as single shows. So True Detective, Dr Who and Blackadder are single shows, you can't vote separately for different series (I think we're assuming that most people voting for True Detective are doing so on the basis of the first series, of course!).

Remakes or reboots will be counted separately. So if voting for Battlestar Galactica, for example, specify which version.

And different series under the same umbrella are separate shows. So vote for three or four different Star Treks if you want.
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk

Postby never/ever » 01 Mar 2018, 22:01

Cheers Ed, that was the question I had. Will pop in my list this weekend
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk

Postby gash on ignore » 01 Mar 2018, 22:03

I haven’t turned off the TV since 1987. Does that count as one vote?
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk

Postby Harry Webster » 01 Mar 2018, 22:33

PENK wrote:A few clarifications:

And different series under the same umbrella are separate shows.


I have a question I'd like answered. What about the same series under different umbrellas?
I'm thinking here of the 1987 Ryder Cup when it rained. As I recall Seve Ballesteros played under a blue and green stripped umbrella whereas Ian "woozy" Woosnam played under a checked umbrella. I do believe the rain eased off in the afternoon so Nick Faldo controversially decided on no umbrella at all!
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk by 18th March!

Postby PENK » 07 Mar 2018, 11:18

Hi everybody!

I've now put a deadline in the thread title. Lists need to come to me by Sunday 18th March. I've already had about 25 in but hoping for plenty more...
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk by 18th March!

Postby PENK » 13 Mar 2018, 11:13

Lists have dried up the last few days. Come on people, arses in gear!
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Re: BCB's Top 50/100 TV shows

Postby PENK » 17 Mar 2018, 19:30

toomanyhatz wrote:I like the idea

So where's your list?!?!

nev gash wrote:Yeah, we should be able to include any style of show.

So make a list doing just that!

Quaco wrote:I'm into this!

I'll believe that when I see it!

caramba wrote:Ultimately, don't think anyone who started watching TV in the 60s/70s and whose viewing habits have been transformed by box sets and long-form TV would find it that hard to come up with 100 titles.

So edit your 100 down to 30 and send me a list!

Rayge wrote:TV offers so much more in terms of factual programming, real long form drama, situation comedies, immediacy (live sports coverage for example) and so on. Cinema is essentially an art form; TV is a medium that can deliver way more.

So send me a list to demonstrate your point!

K wrote:Many "great" shows go on too long.

So send me some that don't!

Darkness Fish wrote:Fuck me, I'd rather watch Lesbian Vampire Killers again, rather than sit through 5 minutes of most of that.

Er... so about those Coil documentaries?
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk by 18th March!

Postby algroth » 18 Mar 2018, 07:44

Wanna reveal who've sent their lists so far, Penk? Just to confirm everyone's lists made it.

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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk by 18th March!

Postby Fonz » 18 Mar 2018, 09:02

Yeah. Good idea.
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk by 18th March!

Postby PENK » 18 Mar 2018, 11:02

algroth wrote:Wanna reveal who've sent their lists so far, Penk? Just to confirm everyone's lists made it.


Don't see any problems with that.

There is a pretty clear top 20-30 shows at the moment with plenty of consensus, then there are another 40-50 with three or four votes each. If I get another 5-10 lists in over the next day I think that will mean enough for a good representative list. As you see I have posted a few reminders to people who had said they'd send a list, and there are others I hope will submit one too. I might send out a few PMs this evening if I think I still want a few more lists. It looks like I'll be off work tomorrow as my son has fever so I can add the final lists and start posting results while he lies on the sofa watching Dino Trux (which has no votes so far in our poll).

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Re: BCB's Top 50/100 TV shows

Postby Rayge » 18 Mar 2018, 11:30

PENK wrote:
Rayge wrote:TV offers so much more in terms of factual programming, real long form drama, situation comedies, immediacy (live sports coverage for example) and so on. Cinema is essentially an art form; TV is a medium that can deliver way more.

So send me a list to demonstrate your point!


Rayge wrote:And it will take me at least a month to compile and polish a list.


But it's snowing out so I might grudgingly try.
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk by 18th March!

Postby algroth » 18 Mar 2018, 12:46

Pretty solid showing so far. Better than in the film poll at least! :D

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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - lists to Penk by 18th March!

Postby caramba » 18 Mar 2018, 14:43

Just sent my list

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Postby toomanyhatz » 18 Mar 2018, 23:38

And I just sent mine.
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Re: BCB's Top TV shows poll - FINAL CALL FOR LISTS!

Postby PENK » 19 Mar 2018, 06:03

Thanks to those who got lists in on time. If anyone else wants to send one last minute, please do so.
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