British film in the 90s

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British film in the 90s

Postby Goat Boy » 24 Jul 2017, 10:31

Terrible, weren't they?

You seemed to have the Merchant Ivory stuff to appeal to Americans. Some crap that came out in response to Trainspotting (Twin Town, Human Traffic), your Brit comedies like Four Weddings and Notting Hill and some mockney gangster crap like Lock Stock


I'm trying to think of good British films and I'm struggling:

Trainspotting
Shallow Grave
Naked
....


I've not seen Ratcatcher (I do rate Morvern Callar) or Nil By Mouth
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Positive Passion » 24 Jul 2017, 10:52

The full monty?
Brassed off?
Little Voice?
Secrets and lies?
Billy Eliot was in 2000 so more or less.

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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby THE FILING FEE » 24 Jul 2017, 10:55

Goat Boy wrote:Terrible, weren't they?

You seemed to have the Merchant Ivory stuff to appeal to Americans. Some crap that came out in response to Trainspotting (Twin Town, Human Traffic), your Brit comedies like Four Weddings and Notting Hill and some mockney gangster crap like Lock Stock


I'm trying to think of good British films and I'm struggling:

Trainspotting
Shallow Grave
Naked
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I've not seen Ratcatcher (I do rate Morvern Callar) or Nil By Mouth


Nil By Mouth is amazing. You really should see it.

Loach's Riff Raff (1991) is pretty good.
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Positive Passion » 24 Jul 2017, 10:59

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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby The Modernist » 24 Jul 2017, 11:24

Ratcatcher is very good indeed.
There were the odd others ..The Small Faces was a moving evocation of 60s Glasgow. But generally I agree..and the films posted so far are making your point for you (though I like Loach).

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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby WG Kaspar » 24 Jul 2017, 12:17

How about Remains Of A Day and Howard's End? Both British right?
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Re: British film in the 90s

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The Modernist wrote:Ratcatcher is very good indeed.
There were the odd others ..The Small Faces was a moving evocation of 60s Glasgow. But generally I agree..and the films posted so far are making your point for you (though I like Loach).


Well, yeah, I mean The Full Monty?
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Goat Boy » 24 Jul 2017, 12:26

I forgot the Pope Must Die!
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby The Great Defector » 24 Jul 2017, 12:30

I was gonna say gangster no 1 but IMDB says I'm out by one year. Still, fucking brilliant film.
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Goat Boy » 24 Jul 2017, 12:37

The Great Defector wrote:I was gonna say gangster no 1 but IMDB says I'm out by one year. Still, fucking brilliant film.


A friend at work lent me that film and for the next week we referred to each other only as "cunt". In a cockney style accent of course.

There was an old woman who worked just in front of me who ended up taking time off work for "health reasons" (she had a dicky heart). I found out afterwards that she blamed this on my bad language. Seriously.
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby The Great Defector » 24 Jul 2017, 12:41

Goat Boy wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:I was gonna say gangster no 1 but IMDB says I'm out by one year. Still, fucking brilliant film.


A friend at work lent me that film and for the next week we referred to each other only as "cunt". In a cockney style accent of course.

There was an old woman who worked just in front of me who ended up taking time off work for "health reasons" (she had a dicky heart). I found out afterwards that she blamed this on my bad language. Seriously.


It's a great film, and I had high hopes for Bettany. He has done some good stuff but seems to acting sporadically or in hardly promoted films. He made a come back of sorts with the avengers. I thinking he might be the stay at home da while the delightful sex kitten that is Jennifer Connelly is out working.
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby The Modernist » 24 Jul 2017, 15:03

WG Kaspar wrote:How about Remains Of A Day and Howard's End? Both British right?


Goat Boy wrote:You seemed to have the Merchant Ivory stuff to appeal to Americans.

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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Samoan » 24 Jul 2017, 15:10

The Modernist wrote:
WG Kaspar wrote:How about Remains Of A Day and Howard's End? Both British right?


Goat Boy wrote:You seemed to have the Merchant Ivory stuff to appeal to Americans.


The Remains of the Day appeals to me and I am not American. I've seen it numerous times - what a cast and a story.

Mike Leigh was on a roll as there was Life is Sweet and Career Girls.
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Snarfyguy » 24 Jul 2017, 16:08

Dr. B. Eef wrote:Nil By Mouth is amazing. You really should see it.

Yes. Also, Sexy Beast (oops, that was Y2K, but still) and Topsy Turvy.
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Loki » 25 Jul 2017, 02:49

Samoan wrote:
The Remains of the Day appeals to me and I am not American. I've seen it numerous times - what a cast and a story.

I love it.


And I really liked Little Voice. Charming as hell. Blethyn was hilarious.
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Goat Boy » 25 Jul 2017, 09:39

Samoan wrote:
The Modernist wrote:
WG Kaspar wrote:How about Remains Of A Day and Howard's End? Both British right?


Goat Boy wrote:You seemed to have the Merchant Ivory stuff to appeal to Americans.


The Remains of the Day appeals to me and I am not American. I've seen it numerous times - what a cast and a story.

Mike Leigh was on a roll as there was Life is Sweet and Career Girls.


My point was they had one eye on the American market with this stuff. All that repressed Britishness and period settings. There's always an anglophile audience across the channel for that sorta thing
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Goat Boy » 25 Jul 2017, 11:32

So slim pickings then.

It's no wonder Shallow Grave and Trainspotting were such a blast of fresh air
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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby The Modernist » 25 Jul 2017, 11:43

I think a lot of what happened with British film in the 90s was a reaction to what happened in the 70s and particular the 80s.
The 80s saw moments of real confidence in British filmmaking, but it was a real see-saw ride with the industry seemingly always on the verge of collapse. The whole rise and fall story of Palace pictures sums this up. The 90s seemed to be the decade when the British film industry got pragmatic and specialised in the low to medium budget genres that they knew would find audiences. Looking back, it can all seem rather formulaic.
It's got a lot more interesting again I think in the 00s.

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Re: British film in the 90s

Postby Goat Boy » 25 Jul 2017, 14:14

It's embarrassing, don't you think? I mean, a major European country with the amount of acting and technical talent we have and yet.....
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