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Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 19:19
by Sneelock
Terrence Stamp is absolutely TOPS in that. Yes, I liked that one very much.

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 08:16
by ...
Lovely anecdote about the distinctly unstarry Mr H from the letters page in yesterday's Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/j ... is-laundry

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 16:57
by Matt Wilson
Thinking about John Heard and the one great role he got has made me think of others in similar predicaments. Actors who could've had Oscar noms or possible wins had they had better offers/scripts. I used to think Nick Nolte fit that category, but now he's had three nominations. I thought that about Matt Dillon and Mickey Rourke as well but then they had their little moments. All through the eighties Sean Penn demonstrated time and time again that he could've been a contender, and now he's got two Oscars. Who else would we put in this category?

Remember Judd Nelson in The Breakfast Club? He never had a good role after that, I don't think. And I'm not putting him in the same class as the actors mentioned above, only that he stood out more than any other cast member in that film and never really went anywhere.

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 21:07
by Jimbly
good notion. I'll come back after a think

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 21:17
by Jimbly
Timothy Hutton didn't get the roles you would expect after his Oscar at 20.

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 21:33
by Matt Wilson
Very good choice. I remember him being pretty good in next year's Taps as well. Also the Falcon and the Snowman.

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 10:28
by Jimbly
Malcolm McDowall fantastic performances early on his career. Settled for schlock and easy money.

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 11:42
by ...
Jeemo wrote:Malcolm McDowall fantastic performances early on his career. Settled for schlock and easy money.


He was still capable of the odd great performance though - I'm thinking of his TV role as the gangster in Our Friends in the North, a part he then pretty much repeated in the movie Gangster No 1 a couple of years later. Aside from that it's hard to think of anything that great after the wonderful O Lucky Man from 72/73.

There are also quite a few actors who win Academy Awards who end up doing nothing else of any real note - Adrian Brody and Cuba Gooding Jr being two recent examples that spring to mind. Isn't there supposed to be some kind of "Curse of the Oscar Winner" or something?

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 12:06
by Jimbly
fueryIre wrote:
Jeemo wrote:Malcolm McDowall fantastic performances early on his career. Settled for schlock and easy money.


He was still capable of the odd great performance though - I'm thinking of his TV role as the gangster in Our Friends in the North, a part he then pretty much repeated in the movie Gangster No 1 a couple of years later. Aside from that it's hard to think of anything that great after the wonderful O Lucky Man from 72/73.

There are also quite a few actors who win Academy Awards who end up doing nothing else of any real note - Adrian Brody and Cuba Gooding Jr being two recent examples that spring to mind. Isn't there supposed to be some kind of "Curse of the Oscar Winner" or something?


yes he was great in them. he spoke very well about getting back to proper roles then etc. then returned to the shite he was churning out.

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 15:01
by ...
Jeemo wrote:
fueryIre wrote:
Jeemo wrote:Malcolm McDowall fantastic performances early on his career. Settled for schlock and easy money.


He was still capable of the odd great performance though - I'm thinking of his TV role as the gangster in Our Friends in the North, a part he then pretty much repeated in the movie Gangster No 1 a couple of years later. Aside from that it's hard to think of anything that great after the wonderful O Lucky Man from 72/73.

There are also quite a few actors who win Academy Awards who end up doing nothing else of any real note - Adrian Brody and Cuba Gooding Jr being two recent examples that spring to mind. Isn't there supposed to be some kind of "Curse of the Oscar Winner" or something?


yes he was great in them. he spoke very well about getting back to proper roles then etc. then returned to the shite he was churning out.


The other oasis in the desert of MMcD's take the money and run career was his HG Wells opposite the always excellent David Warner's Jack the Ripper in TIme After Time

Re: RIP John Heard

Posted: 02 Aug 2017, 03:03
by Loki
fueryIre wrote:The other oasis in the desert of MMcD's take the money and run career was his HG Wells opposite the always excellent David Warner's Jack the Ripper in TIme After Time


YES