Films that could've been better with another director.

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Films that could've been better with another director.

Postby joels344 » 16 Mar 2017, 13:31

I got this thread idea from watching Speed last night. It had been years since I had seen the film and it happened to be on TV late at night, so I indulged by watching some action shlock. Throughout the film, I kept thinking how much better this film could have been (keep Dennis Hopper and Jeff Daniels in the cast, though) if the Mad Max version of George Miller directed it. Could you imagine how intense and visually interesting those bus sequences would have been with Miller calling the shots? So, what are some other films that could have been better with another director?

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Re: Films that could've been better with another director.

Postby Darkness_Fish » 16 Mar 2017, 13:41

I really wound my wife up last time we watched Speed, she loves it, and it annoys the shit out of me. Dennis Hopper blowing up his own quite impressive house, and everything it contains, as a side-offshoot of a $3M ransom demand? That scene were the bus jumps over the gap too, what a pile of cack, it leaps into the air despite driving fairly slowly off a flat bit of tarmac. And the airport at the end, imagine being the chief exec there who made the decision to keep the airport operational, despite having a bus with a bomb on it driving round and round in circles on it's tarmac. Why didn't he just hold the fucking airport to ransom for $20M? I can't imagine what would've saved that film, other than a different plot. I'd keep Jeff Daniels and Dennis Hopper though, obviously.
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Postby joels344 » 16 Mar 2017, 13:59

Darkness_Fish wrote:I really wound my wife up last time we watched Speed, she loves it, and it annoys the shit out of me. Dennis Hopper blowing up his own quite impressive house, and everything it contains, as a side-offshoot of a $3M ransom demand? That scene were the bus jumps over the gap too, what a pile of cack, it leaps into the air despite driving fairly slowly off a flat bit of tarmac. And the airport at the end, imagine being the chief exec there who made the decision to keep the airport operational, despite having a bus with a bomb on it driving round and round in circles on it's tarmac. Why didn't he just hold the fucking airport to ransom for $20M? I can't imagine what would've saved that film, other than a different plot. I'd keep Jeff Daniels and Dennis Hopper though, obviously.


It's all ridiculous nonsense. But you always keep Daniels and Hopper. Even in the worst of films, they can provide entertainment and characterization.

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Postby pcqgod » 16 Mar 2017, 15:24

I'm sure that those 'Hobbit' movies would have been better with Del Toro directing, as originally planned.
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Postby Goat Boy » 16 Mar 2017, 15:44

Star Wars prequels
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Postby Matt Wilson » 16 Mar 2017, 16:02

Too many films to fucking name.
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Re: Films that could've been better with another director.

Postby Schiz-Ke-Bab » 16 Mar 2017, 16:57

pcqgod wrote:I'm sure that those 'Hobbit' movies would have been better with Del Toro directing, as originally planned.

I concur!
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Postby The Great Defector » 16 Mar 2017, 17:07

8mm. Fuck Joel Schumacher for many bad films, this included.
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Postby Schiz-Ke-Bab » 16 Mar 2017, 17:10

'Hardcore' by Paul Schrader. Not that it's not already a good movie, because it is, but if Scorsese had been given a chance to work the same kind of magic that he did with Schrader's 'Taxi Driver' script I think the film would've been incredible and more than just one out of a dozen people would know that it even exists.
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Postby Schiz-Ke-Bab » 16 Mar 2017, 17:11

The Great Defector wrote:8mm. Fuck Joel Schumacher for many bad films, this included.

8mm by Gasper Noe might've been a bit interesting.
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Postby algroth » 16 Mar 2017, 21:20

pcqgod wrote:I'm sure that those 'Hobbit' movies would have been better with Del Toro directing, as originally planned.


Agreed. Also would add Michael Mann as a potentially interesting director for Speed.

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Postby algroth » 16 Mar 2017, 21:24

Schiz-Ke-Bab wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:8mm. Fuck Joel Schumacher for many bad films, this included.

8mm by Gasper Noe might've been a bit interesting.


Then again, Gaspar Noe would probably make any film a bit interesting. :P

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Postby The Great Defector » 16 Mar 2017, 21:25

algroth wrote:
pcqgod wrote:I'm sure that those 'Hobbit' movies would have been better with Del Toro directing, as originally planned.


Agreed. Also would add Michael Mann as a potentially interesting director for Speed.


A good friend of mine who is a LOTR nut, says the hobbit stories are more for kids and Del Toro would make them too dark. He wasn't expecting much from them because of this.
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Re: Films that could've been better with another director.

Postby algroth » 16 Mar 2017, 21:33

The Great Defector wrote:
algroth wrote:
pcqgod wrote:I'm sure that those 'Hobbit' movies would have been better with Del Toro directing, as originally planned.


Agreed. Also would add Michael Mann as a potentially interesting director for Speed.


A good friend of mine who is a LOTR nut, says the hobbit stories are more for kids and Del Toro would make them too dark. He wasn't expecting much from them because of this.


They are more lighthearted but I think that would underestimate Del Toro's tact for the source material. Both Pacific Rim and Hellboy can get weird, sure enough, but as for them being *dark*, at least in the sense of grimness, it doesn't seem to be the case for me. I think Del Toro would have probably tried to respect the original tone or added his own eye to it instead of making it the "Lord of the Rings prequel trilogy" it was in the end made out to be.

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Postby joels344 » 16 Mar 2017, 21:44

I might have actually watched the Hobbit films if Del Toro had been the director.

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Postby Classic Rock Sneelock » 16 Mar 2017, 22:39

hell, I think John Boorman was the great coulda-was Lord of the Rings director & he most certainly would not have been making them for children.
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Re: Films that could've been better with another director.

Postby Dayodead » 16 Mar 2017, 23:33

The Great Defector wrote:8mm. Fuck Joel Schumacher for many bad films, this included.


8mm is a good choice...The producers originally wanted David Fincher and he might have done a better job...Using him would have also prevented Schumacher from hacking up the first script by Andrew Kevin Walker ('Seven')...

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Postby driftin » 17 Mar 2017, 00:14

If only Michael Bay directed Proof.

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Re: Films that could've been better with another director.

Postby echolalia » 17 Mar 2017, 00:24

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Re: Films that could've been better with another director.

Postby Schiz-Ke-Bab » 17 Mar 2017, 13:00

algroth wrote:
Schiz-Ke-Bab wrote:
The Great Defector wrote:8mm. Fuck Joel Schumacher for many bad films, this included.

8mm by Gasper Noe might've been a bit interesting.


Then again, Gaspar Noe would probably make any film a bit interesting. :P

:lol: True dat.
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