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Val Kilmer

Postby Matt Wilson » 09 Mar 2017, 21:15

So what ever happened to this guy? One of those rare pretty boys who could actually act (Kevin Spacey said he wanted to attend Chatsworth High School because Kilmer attended). Great in The Doors, Tombstone, and Heat. A few interesting performances/films besides those (Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, The Salton Sea, Real Genius). Then he got fat.

A wasted career? Talent unrealized? He never even got an oscar nod. Probably as good an actor as Mickey Rourke.

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Dayodead » 09 Mar 2017, 22:34

Val is notorious for being difficult to work with..Once you get that "Sean Young" kind of rep, it's difficult to get away from it..Earned or not, this might be why he has been relegated to the underbelly of the industry since around 2005 (When he did 'Kiss Kiss Bang Bang')...

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Matt Wilson » 10 Mar 2017, 00:08

Yep, I've heard the same thing.

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby pcqgod » 11 Mar 2017, 02:46

He was no Brad Pitt.
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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby *fun and open field* » 11 Mar 2017, 03:01

I don't know why you'd start a thread on him, to be perfectly honest. A handful of so-so performances in so-so films.

Can we talk about Treat Williams instead? Or John Vernon?
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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Matt Wilson » 11 Mar 2017, 17:43

I liked Treat Williams in Hair, he was in Once Upon a Time in America too but didn't make much of an impression. John Vernon, the guy from Animal House?

I dunno, I used to like Val Kilmer, but things never quite worked out for him.

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 11 Mar 2017, 17:57

There was talk about Kilmer having cancer over the last few years - but he denies it. Judging from some of the pictures at the time, it seems possible that some health struggle had some part of his absence. But there have been recent photos of him looking better - so who knows. I'm not actually a guy who follows shit like that. Not sure why I even know this much.

Regarding Treat Williams...all talk of his value as an actor must begin and end with Prince of the City - a forgotten 70s classic (if such a thing still exists).
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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby *fun and open field* » 11 Mar 2017, 17:57

Matt Wilson wrote:I liked Treat Williams in Hair, he was in Once Upon a Time in America too but didn't make much of an impression. John Vernon, the guy from Animal House?


Him, yeah! He was absolutely wonderful in that.

And have you seen Point Blank, Matt? Fucking A-grade film.
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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby yomptepi » 11 Mar 2017, 18:14

Wasn't he Batman for a while?

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Darryl Strawberry » 11 Mar 2017, 19:30

Davey the Fat Boy wrote:
Regarding Treat Williams...all talk of his value as an actor must begin and end with Prince of the City - a forgotten 70s classic (if such a thing still exists).

Released in 1981 ;)

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Darkness_Fish » 11 Mar 2017, 20:31

The last film ever shown at my old local cinema, where I used to go twice a week, was Val Kilmer's The Saint. It wasn't really worthy of the occasion. I can't think of a film I've enjoyed that he's been in, other than Top Secret, and I very much doubt I'd enjoy that sober.
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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby PresMuffley » 11 Mar 2017, 21:31

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Re: Val Kilmer

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Fonz » 12 Mar 2017, 17:53

He was good in'Heat', not that the role was too demanding.
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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Goat Boy » 12 Mar 2017, 17:56

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Matt Wilson » 12 Mar 2017, 20:58

OH wrote:
Matt Wilson wrote:I liked Treat Williams in Hair, he was in Once Upon a Time in America too but didn't make much of an impression. John Vernon, the guy from Animal House?


Him, yeah! He was absolutely wonderful in that.

And have you seen Point Blank, Matt? Fucking A-grade film.


OMG. yes! I'd forgotten about that. I own it too. Probably my favorite film with Lee Marvin as a leading man. Still don't think Vernon really stands out though. He's in Outlaw Josie Wales as well.

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Darryl Strawberry » 12 Mar 2017, 21:06

Matt Wilson wrote:
OH wrote:
Matt Wilson wrote:I liked Treat Williams in Hair, he was in Once Upon a Time in America too but didn't make much of an impression. John Vernon, the guy from Animal House?


Him, yeah! He was absolutely wonderful in that.

And have you seen Point Blank, Matt? Fucking A-grade film.


OMG. yes! I'd forgotten about that. I own it too. Probably my favorite film with Lee Marvin as a leading man. Still don't think Vernon really stands out though. He's in Outlaw Josie Wales as well.

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Matt Wilson » 12 Mar 2017, 21:08

Yep, I should have looked at his filmography.

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby Jimbo » 13 Mar 2017, 03:13

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Re: Val Kilmer

Postby martha » 13 Mar 2017, 05:17

When I think of him, I think cheesy 80's stuff like...Top Secret!, Real Genius and Willow.

I never understood his appeal.
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