Currently, Film Or TV?

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Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Dr Markus » 11 Jan 2017, 12:45

I've noticed that I don't watch as many films as I used to, it's more and more TV. It could be down to laziness of not going to the cinema or building up a host of record shows that I have to get through, so I don't have time to watch a film. To be honest, there's not a lot in the cinema recently that gets me excited or saying to myself, "Fuck I have to go see that".

Is anyone else Currently going through a phase like this?
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Goat Boy » 11 Jan 2017, 13:08

No. I don't understand how you can not have time to watch a 2hr movie but spend hours watching a TV show? Just download them instead of going to the cinema, no?

I'm the complete opposite. I hardly watch any TV shows bar fluff like Man Versus Food but I watch quite a lot of movies.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Darkness_Fish » 11 Jan 2017, 13:53

I don't actually go to the cinema to watch anything other than kids' films with my son. Last supposedly 'grown-up' film I saw through my own volition at the cinema was Casino Royale (not the David Niven version, btw). But I find TV serials generally annoying, cliched, over-written, and entirely off-putting. I'd always vote for film here. I like the idea of a very definite concept entirely captured within a specific time-frame, not something drawn-out over 26 episodes which is never fully resolved in case they get the cash for another pop at it.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Goat Boy » 11 Jan 2017, 14:05

Darkness_Fish wrote:I like the idea of a very definite concept entirely captured within a specific time-frame, not something drawn-out over 26 episodes which is never fully resolved in case they get the cash for another pop at it.



Yes, absolutely. Spot on
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Dr Markus » 11 Jan 2017, 14:22

Darkness_Fish wrote:I don't actually go to the cinema to watch anything other than kids' films with my son. Last supposedly 'grown-up' film I saw through my own volition at the cinema was Casino Royale (not the David Niven version, btw). But I find TV serials generally annoying, cliched, over-written, and entirely off-putting. I'd always vote for film here. I like the idea of a very definite concept entirely captured within a specific time-frame, not something drawn-out over 26 episodes which is never fully resolved in case they get the cash for another pop at it.



Ah, that's kinda why I like tv shows. They are allowed to expand and go in depth. If a film director/script writer wanted to get everything in to a film they wanted, chances are it would be over 3 or 4 hours. The production company, depending on the director, would make cuts even without the director involvement. The same is happening in certain commercial films to in terms of having another pop at it if the first one is successful.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Darkness_Fish » 11 Jan 2017, 15:12

I don't think that TV shows do use the opportunity to "expand and go in depth" much, however. From my experience, they go in two directions:

1. A soap-esque staple, where it's the same characters enjoying different adventures, usually tied up very loosely by some overarching plotline or theme. Not necessarily bad, but not fitting to my idea of a single concept being captured.
2. An actual one-plot theme per series, which then leads down multiple blind alleys, diversions and red-herrings before finally partially deciding to resolve the main plot.

I find it strange that there's not more quality within the mini-series of 2-3 episodes. I mean, there has to be some kind of artistic middle-ground between a 90 min to 3 hour film, and multiples of 26 hours. But mini-series (particularly US series) tend to look and feel a bit cheap.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Dr Markus » 11 Jan 2017, 15:17

Some do like you said, but now and again you get something that might still follow the above but is fucking brilliant. For example I'm loving the leftovers, even though it's apparently nothing like the book. Find a good tv show, you have to do a bit of recon and find out the views of trusted friends or reviewers.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby driftin » 11 Jan 2017, 16:00

Watched a lot of both in 2016.

Film.

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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Matt Wilson » 11 Jan 2017, 16:48

Always film, good God, are you serious?

I understand that television is supposed to be going through some kind of golden age for the last few years, but still... There's enough great pictures I've yet to see to keep me interested for the rest of my days.

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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby ... » 11 Jan 2017, 17:06

While I now only ever go to movies when I've got time to kill while on holiday or while waiting hours for a late-night flight after being kicked out of a hotel at noon, the obvious answer would be a bit of both.

At the end of the day, the chasm between what's great and what's shit applies just as much to movies as it does to TV.

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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Rayge » 11 Jan 2017, 17:13

Film was last century's medium. I think I've seen four this century in the cinema, maybe twice that on TV or dvd.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Samoan » 11 Jan 2017, 18:35

fueryIre wrote:.


At the end of the day, the chasm between what's great and what's shit applies just as much to movies as it does to TV.

I agree.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Samoan » 11 Jan 2017, 18:44

So far this week I've watched a few episodes of Coronation Street and I've watched Trumbo

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and I've enjoyed both although there are more weaknesses in the movie than the TV programme, primarily Helen Mirren's performance. It's an interesting, thought-provoking film though, all told.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby ... » 12 Jan 2017, 08:50

Given that most mainstream movies now seem to have neglected stories in favour shoot-em up/comic book franchise CGI wankfests aimed at teens in malls, the only halfway decent thing to have happened to the movie business this century (for me anyway) has been the rise of the documentary.

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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby KeithPratt » 12 Jan 2017, 10:55

I don't get to the cinema much, but at the same time I find neither forms are particularly engaging right now. Part of the problem is that with a Sky box & Amazon Prime etc I can pretty much download anything I want at any time, which in itself creates a peculiar sort of oppositional ennui where I don't watch anything of any real substance anymore. The fact that we live in a sort of fantasy world with regard to access to entertainment compared to, say, 20 years ago, has I'm sure contributed hugely to my attitude. Gone are the days when I'd scan the listings and mark what I was going to watch. Our Sky box is chock a block with series and programs, some of them going back over 2 years. I doubt we'll ever watch all of them. At the same time, I guess that this ridiculous amount of information available makes me think that if it was so good, then I'd watch it all. So, logically by that assumption, I think it probably isn't and I'm not missing anything.

In all honesty nowadays I'm much more likely to just read a book.

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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Spec » 12 Jan 2017, 11:42

I love the cinema and there is something about the immersive experience, away from distractions. But I probably only see 5 or 6 films a year and TV dominates. That is in part cost - we go as a family of 4 and it will cost £40-50.

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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Goat Boy » 12 Jan 2017, 11:59

Spec wrote:I love the cinema and there is something about the immersive experience, away from distractions.


That's the thing, isn't it? No distractions, no mobile, no laptop, just you and the movie. In the last few years I've gone to the cinema more than ever. I still don't download movies or stream telly. It's an old fashioned approach but I like it. It's easy to become overwhelmed by choice and availability. That's what happened when I started downloading music. I'd just end up with a backlog of albums to listen to and I never got round to listening to half of them. It was self defeating for me. Nowadays I take a more methodical approach and it's much more satisfying.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Dr Markus » 12 Jan 2017, 12:04

Spec wrote:I love the cinema and there is something about the immersive experience, away from distractions.


I'm the same, I get the cheaper, get it before it's out thrill of downloading films, but sitting back in a big cinema with a big box of popcorn that you know you're not gonna finish and watching movie is awesome.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Fonz » 12 Jan 2017, 14:25

TV series win pretty much everytime in our house. Convenience. 45-60 minutes chunks.
Watched something actually 'on' telly last week with adverts. Awful experience.
We don't watch much rubbish.
Grand Designs, the odd Rick Stein, and that nudie dating thing.
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Re: Currently, Film Or TV?

Postby Dr Markus » 12 Jan 2017, 14:36

Fonz wrote: and that nudie dating thing.


Why?
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