BCB 100 - David Bowie

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Postby T. Berry Shuffle » 25 Jun 2006, 01:36

Album: Ziggy Stardust

Song: For me, I just can't get over the crashing cinemagraphic effect of hearing Bowie tear into "Life on Mars." It's a life affirming moment!
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Postby king feeb » 25 Jun 2006, 02:23

Album: The Man Who Sold The World


Song: "Hang On To Yourself"
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Postby ThE rEd HeIfEr HaS gOoD tAsTe In MuSiC » 25 Jun 2006, 02:28

Album: Aladdin Sane

Song: "Life On Mars?"

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Postby mentalist (slight return) » 25 Jun 2006, 07:39

Album: The remastered Stage is an amazing improvement, OK it's probably not his best but it deserves mention
Song: Golden Years or Station To Station (Live version from Stage)

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Postby Tom Violence » 25 Jun 2006, 12:19

Album: Alladin Sane (sheer quality throughout, and it has 'Drive in Saturday')

Song: Ashes to Ashes (quite easily actually)


My favourite album changes every few days. It's never Young Americans or anything post Scary Monsters though.
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Postby atomic loonybin » 25 Jun 2006, 12:23

Classic Prof wrote:Album: Ziggy Stardust

Track: Will You Rock & Roll With Me

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Postby Gater05 » 25 Jun 2006, 15:55

Album-Ziggy
Song-Heroes
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Postby BajaJaba » 25 Jun 2006, 16:01

Album - Hunky Dory
Song - Suffragette City

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Postby The Modernist » 25 Jun 2006, 19:30

Sutekh wrote:Albottom: Hunky Dory

Track: The London Boys


nice to see someone mention that one -great song.

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Postby brassneck.. » 26 Jun 2006, 09:42

Album - Ziggy
Song - Life On Mars

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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 26 Jun 2006, 15:16

T. Berry Shuffle wrote:Album: Ziggy Stardust

Song: For me, I just can't get over the crashing cinemagraphic effect of hearing Bowie tear into "Life on Mars." It's a life affirming moment!


So how are we going to sustain hostitility if I have to agree 100% with you?

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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 26 Jun 2006, 18:34

Davey The Fat Boy wrote:
T. Berry Shuffle wrote:Album: Ziggy Stardust

Song: For me, I just can't get over the crashing cinemagraphic effect of hearing Bowie tear into "Life on Mars." It's a life affirming moment!


So how are we going to sustain hostitility if I have to agree 100% with you?


You shouldn't be agreeing with him. That's the simple answer.

Like 'Heroes', 'Life On Mars' suffers from Bowies torturous Judy Garland darlink-I'm-ALIIIIVE! bellowing, alloyed with the stupidest hippy lyrics this side of 'oh oh ohohoh fireplace' early REM.

By Christ, you only have to see the promo, with the Dame tarted up to the eyeballs, and listen to lines about Mickey Mouse being grown up a cow, and realise the man was a fucking tosspot of the highest order. It's rock and roll stripped of rage, where all that remains is artifice.

I'd much rather hear 'Imagine'. At least Lennon wasn't a coward when it came to expressing himself.

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Postby BajaJaba » 26 Jun 2006, 18:37

King John Coan wrote:
Davey The Fat Boy wrote:
T. Berry Shuffle wrote:Album: Ziggy Stardust

Song: For me, I just can't get over the crashing cinemagraphic effect of hearing Bowie tear into "Life on Mars." It's a life affirming moment!


So how are we going to sustain hostitility if I have to agree 100% with you?


You shouldn't be agreeing with him. That's the simple answer.

Like 'Heroes', 'Life On Mars' suffers from Bowies torturous Judy Garland darlink-I'm-ALIIIIVE! bellowing, alloyed with the stupidest hippy lyrics this side of 'oh oh ohohoh fireplace' early REM.

By Christ, you only have to see the promo, with the Dame tarted up to the eyeballs, and listen to lines about Mickey Mouse being grown up a cow, and realise the man was a fucking tosspot of the highest order. It's rock and roll stripped of rage, where all that remains is artifice.

I'd much rather hear 'Imagine'. At least Lennon wasn't a coward when it came to expressing himself.


Maybe it's just because Heroes is just a cracker of a song....personally I do feel the emotion in that song, and in life on mars as well though i would think it is a bit syrupy.

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Postby Clippernolan » 26 Jun 2006, 18:42

King John Coan wrote:I'd much rather hear 'Imagine'. At least Lennon wasn't a coward when it came to expressing himself.


Bowie and Lennon had two fundamentally different approaches when it came to performance. Lennon believed the performer shoul reveal everything and that the artistic merit lay in the honesty of the act. Bowie believed that you could use narration and performance as a way of distancing that performer from the expression so as to highlight the artfulness of that expression. I don' think it had anything to do with how brave, or not, either performer was. Hate the result, but not the approach I think then.
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Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 26 Jun 2006, 18:42

King John Coan wrote:Like 'Heroes', 'Life On Mars' suffers from Bowies torturous Judy Garland darlink-I'm-ALIIIIVE! bellowing, alloyed with the stupidest hippy lyrics this side of 'oh oh ohohoh fireplace' early REM.

By Christ, you only have to see the promo, with the Dame tarted up to the eyeballs, and listen to lines about Mickey Mouse being grown up a cow, and realise the man was a fucking tosspot of the highest order. It's rock and roll stripped of rage, where all that remains is artifice.


And so...assuming you are a Bowie fan, how exactly is this a problem for you?

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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 26 Jun 2006, 18:47

Clippernolan wrote:
King John Coan wrote:I'd much rather hear 'Imagine'. At least Lennon wasn't a coward when it came to expressing himself.


Bowie and Lennon had two fundamentally different approaches when it came to performance. Lennon believed the performer shoul reveal everything and that the artistic merit lay in the honesty of the act. Bowie believed that you could use narration and performance as a way of distancing that performer from the expression so as to highlight the artfulness of that expression. I don' think it had anything to do with how brave, or not, either performer was. Hate the result, but not the approach I think then.


Well, yes. True. That's what I meant, really. I can't resist a dig at Bowie - at his worst he's really terribly dated and irritating. I wouldn't bother so much if I didn't think his best work touched the stratosphere.

And our approaches differ in that your posts are more considered than mine!

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Postby toomanyhatz » 26 Jun 2006, 18:48

From 69-79 (and maybe even starting before), he was great. Made more abrupt interesting turns than anyone else, Neil included, for that whole period. post-80, hell with 'im, even supposed "returns to form."

Yeah, artifice was part of his game. But it wasn't as if he wasn't being himself. His range of interests was legitimate, and at least for the whole of the 70s, he remembered to always be interesting, even through dubious turns like the white soul singer of "Young Americans."

Album - Hunky Dory. It's just where he's most being himself.

Song - The Bewlay Brothers. Ditto. It's where he confesses the whole game.
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 26 Jun 2006, 18:52

toomanyhatz wrote:Album - Hunky Dory. It's just where he's most being himself.

Song - The Bewlay Brothers. Ditto. It's where he confesses the whole game.


That album features some horrible warbling and his most annoying nonsense lyrics. And you've highlighted one of the worst songs there.

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Postby Clippernolan » 26 Jun 2006, 18:56

King John Coan wrote:
Clippernolan wrote:
King John Coan wrote:I'd much rather hear 'Imagine'. At least Lennon wasn't a coward when it came to expressing himself.


Bowie and Lennon had two fundamentally different approaches when it came to performance. Lennon believed the performer shoul reveal everything and that the artistic merit lay in the honesty of the act. Bowie believed that you could use narration and performance as a way of distancing that performer from the expression so as to highlight the artfulness of that expression. I don' think it had anything to do with how brave, or not, either performer was. Hate the result, but not the approach I think then.


Well, yes. True. That's what I meant, really. I can't resist a dig at Bowie - at his worst he's really terribly dated and irritating. I wouldn't bother so much if I didn't think his best work touched the stratosphere.

And our approaches differ in that your posts are more considered than mine!


:lol:

It struck me that you knew very well that Bowie was all about the artifice, and Lennon about the "honesty". But it was the "cowardice" thing I felt needed to be eliminated there.
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