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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Lord Rother » 20 May 2018, 09:11

WG Kaspar wrote:I thought Man Utd were thoroughly entertaining and for about 30 minutes in the second half, they were stretching Chelsea, whey were moving the ball fast they were creating openings, they forced a few saves, it just didn't go their way. There was no need to make any changes up until the 75th minute which was when Chelsea finally got hold of the ball for more than 2 minutes and took the sting out of Man Utd's attack. They reverted back to pointless possession after that.
I thought taking out Rashford for Martial was probably a bad move, given that Rashford was looking better as time went on and Martial really offered nothing. And Pogba was really good in the second half, makes you wonder what the fuck goes on and he goes missing repeatedly for large chunks of any game.


Thouroughly entertaining?

Seriously?

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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Diamond Dog » 20 May 2018, 09:18

He must be on some seriously good shit.
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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Lord Rother » 20 May 2018, 09:37

Look at Rashford, look at Martial, look at Pogba, look at Luke Shaw..... all great young talent who have become shadows of their former selves. He’s even doing the same thing to Sanchez.

Man Utd have won a lot of games this season, 2nd in the league, FA Cup finalists, but Mourinho has created a boring team, stifling naturally gifted players who now look scared to make mistakes because when they do they know they might get hung out to dry in public.

If flair players are scared to make mistakes they become ineffective.

He is becoming a footballing dinosaur.

And having listened to a few hours of phone ins, read newspapers etc. I honestly haven’t heard / seen a single observer (journalists, ex- players, supporters) in favour of Mourinho.

Even the board must now know that they need to get rid. He is harming the brand and taking the club backwards.

They cannot allow it to continue so will cut their losses soon. Poch to take over....

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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Darkness_Fish » 21 May 2018, 09:33

WG Kaspar wrote:I thought taking out Rashford for Martial was probably a bad move, given that Rashford was looking better as time went on and Martial really offered nothing. And Pogba was really good in the second half, makes you wonder what the fuck goes on and he goes missing repeatedly for large chunks of any game.

I thought Rashford was really poor throughout, the backwards steps he's taken under Mourinho is worrying. He'd be behind Lindgard in current form for England reckoning, which you'd never have thought given the impact he had in his early appearances. Only Ashley Young ever looked threatening from the wings - which may show that Mourinho knows how to make an old dog learn new tricks, rather than improve the talent of young but inexperienced. Pogba - I generally blame Mourinho again. He seems to want him to play deep, and form part of a defensive midfield trio. Pogba can take the game by the scruff of the neck, but I reckon when he does burst forward, he's generally disobeying team orders. But when he does have that freedom, he's a game changer, and looks genuinely like Utd's most dangerous player running in from midfield, looking for a one-two or a shot from the edge of the box.
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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Diamond Dog » 21 May 2018, 09:50

To be fair, Pogba is now playing in exactly the position (left hand side of a midfield three) he himself said was his best. He had an okay second half (not sure why he's getting this acclaim he seems to have attracted, however) but, nonetheless, he looks to be a huge waste of money. And he missed the best clear cut chance of the whole game, without even hitting the target.

Young looked good until he actually had to deliver the ball - then I think his desire to turn back onto his right foot became apparent. He did better than most Man U players but that really is damning with faint praise.

Rashford looks completely devoid of confidence to me - he hasn't became a bad player by the age of 20 but if your boss continually and publicly criticises you, that's always likely to happen. He needs to get away from that atmosphere immediately.

I'm not sure exactly what Lingard's role is still but he was woeful on Saturday. Contributed absolutely sweet fuck all.

The worst player on the pitch offensively though was Sanchez - an utterly incompetent and frustrating performance. He was almost anonymous and when he did show up, he was either giving the ball away, getting in the way or moaning at his team mates. I've never been his biggest fan and Saturday was typical of why.

Lastly, God fucking help us if Phil Jones actually has to play anytime during the World Cup. He is a penalty and/or sending off waiting to happen every single time he's on the pitch.
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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Toby » 21 May 2018, 10:16

He's got a season hasn't he?

If things don't improve markedly then I think they'll jettison him and get Simeone.

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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Diamond Dog » 21 May 2018, 10:25

And just about the Cup Final - did I hear that Rudiger got Man Of The Match?

I mean, which visually challenged fuckwit decided he had played better than César Azpilicueta?
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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Diamond Dog » 21 May 2018, 10:25

Toby wrote:He's got a season hasn't he?

If things don't improve markedly then I think they'll jettison him and get Simeone.


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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Darkness_Fish » 21 May 2018, 13:49

Diamond Dog wrote:Lastly, God fucking help us if Phil Jones actually has to play anytime during the World Cup. He is a penalty and/or sending off waiting to happen every single time he's on the pitch.

Remember when he was young, and people were comparing him to Bobby Moore and Duncan Edwards? Could that have gone any worse. He runs as fast as he can into everything, 100% committed, 100% clueless. I'd be much more in favour of Smalling being in the England team, even if he's only teetering on the edge of competency.

*Edit: To be fair Rudiger was pretty good in the final, as was Kante yet again. I think you could've made a case for either of those alongside Azpilicueta.
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Re: The Manchester United Thread

Postby Diamond Dog » 21 May 2018, 15:11

I think they all played well at the back for Chelsea but I thought Azpilicueta was by some distance the best player on the pitch. He is a personal favourite of mine though so I suppose I could have been biased.
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