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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby Dr Markus » 14 Nov 2017, 22:42

No need to be sorry, your respective countries are hardly setting the world alight with their football with better or the same level of talent as ours. Just banter, its cool.
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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby Goat Boy » 14 Nov 2017, 22:44

I like seeing other teams being reduced to our level.

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby PENK » 01 Dec 2017, 15:19

Anyone else watching the draw? That song was awesome in that lunatic, taste-free, completely un-self-aware Eurovision style. That it climaxed with Miroslav Klose stood in the middle of the stage was just the icing on the cake.

Apparently the longhaired ”Portugal” shredmeister was the guitarist from Extreme. :lol:
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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby PENK » 01 Dec 2017, 15:30

Bit harsh making Cannavaro do the draw when Italy won’t be there.
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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby fange » 01 Dec 2017, 15:49

PENK wrote:Anyone else watching the draw? That song was awesome in that lunatic, taste-free, completely un-self-aware Eurovision style. That it climaxed with Miroslav Klose stood in the middle of the stage was just the icing on the cake.

Apparently the longhaired ”Portugal” shredmeister was the guitarist from Extreme. :lol:

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby fange » 01 Dec 2017, 15:57

Group A Russia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Uruguay
Group B Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
Group C France, Australia, Peru, Denmark
Group D Argentina, Iceland, Croatia, Nigeria
Group E Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia
Group F Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea
Group G Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England
Group H Poland, Senegal, Colombia, Japan
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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby Toby » 01 Dec 2017, 16:01

There's no excuse qualifying from this group for England. And then a team from Group H in the 2nd round, none of whom are that frightening.

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby The Modernist » 01 Dec 2017, 16:03

England have got lucky there.
Group of death is between E & F.

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby Toby » 01 Dec 2017, 16:06

I'd say H is the group of death - Germany shouldn't have any problems qualifying from F. B and D are intriguing too.

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby The Modernist » 01 Dec 2017, 16:07

H? That looks like one of the weaker groups to me

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby PENK » 01 Dec 2017, 16:08

Toby wrote:There's no excuse qualifying from this group for England. And then a team from Group H in the 2nd round, none of whom are that frightening.


Brazil or Germany potentially in the quarters though, so that would be that. Based on the draw that’s what I’d hope for. But yeah, happy with the draw in general. Russia-Saudi Arabia isn’t the most glamorous opener!

Is it me or are Argentina and Nigeria always in the same group? I actually commented that just before Nigeria got pyulled out. No real group of death (H maybe but there are no ”big names” there) but that one is certainly tough for Argentina.
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Postby Toby » 01 Dec 2017, 16:11

The Modernist wrote:H? That looks like one of the weaker groups to me


It may be weak, but I'd say that the quality of the teams is relatively similar. Japan aren't what they were, but they're capable of upsets and Colombia, Senegal and Poland all have world-class players.

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Postby Toby » 01 Dec 2017, 16:12

PENK wrote:
Brazil or Germany potentially in the quarters though, so that would be that.


I have no expectations of England making it past the Quarters.

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby PENK » 01 Dec 2017, 16:15

I have no expectations of them making it out of the group!
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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby The Modernist » 01 Dec 2017, 16:19

Toby wrote:
The Modernist wrote:H? That looks like one of the weaker groups to me


It may be weak, but I'd say that the quality of the teams is relatively similar. Japan aren't what they were, but they're capable of upsets and Colombia, Senegal and Poland all have world-class players.


We have a different interpretation of 'group of death' then. I take it to mean the group with the strongest teams.

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby Toby » 01 Dec 2017, 16:25

A group of death would be where at least 3 sides feel they have a good chance of qualifying and doing well in the tournament.

I don't think Mexico, Sweden or South Korea are strong teams. Colombia, Senegal and Poland are all better than them.

Perhaps in Russia they could call it "the group of meth".

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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby Diamond Dog » 01 Dec 2017, 16:34

A Group Of Death is where a really fancied team (to progress far into the tournament) is certain to be knocked out at the group stage, surely?
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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby Rayge » 01 Dec 2017, 16:49

Diamond Dog wrote:A Group Of Death is where a really fancied team (to progress far into the tournament) gets is certain to be knocked out at the group stage, surely?

I'd say so.
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Re: World Cup 2018 - Rossiya

Postby Toby » 01 Dec 2017, 17:25

The Cambridge Dictionary (I realise this isn't Chambers etc) definition

"in the first stage of a football cup competition, a group containing several of the best teams in the competition, not all of whom can move onto the next stage:"


So, in reality there are no groups of death in this tournament.