Baseball 2017

[sloopjohnc]

Thanks...Yeah I get that John... what i'm trying to get at is there a time when the team sheet has to be handed in - the same for both teams?

Sorry.

The lineup card has to be signed by the manager and submitted to umpires a few minutes before game time. I think any announcement before that is for fans and the media.

[toomanyhatz]

Is there a time when the team sheet has to be handed in - the same for both teams?

I don't think there is officially, though I'm not sure. But the starting pitcher will always warm up before the game, so for a team to do a switcharoo, the second the pitcher started warming up the other team would know. Maybe there's a 'gentleman's agreement' to keep the other team apprised of sudden changes, but I don't think there's any official rule about it.

Let's put it this way - barring injury, I've never seen that kind of last-minute change.

[Diamond Dog]

Right thanks for that guys.

I'm intrigued that even two diehard fans like you aren't actually certain about it..... I would have thought there has to be a given time for teamsheets to be handed over... I'm going to do some research. Pretty sure Hatz's version of a 'gentlemans agreement' is probably in place - I'm intrigued as to whether a team (by law or rule) is bound to that though. Interesting.

[sloopjohnc]

Right thanks for that guys.

I'm intrigued that even two diehard fans like you aren't actually certain about it..... I would have thought there has to be a given time for teamsheets to be handed over... I'm going to do some research. Pretty sure Hatz's version of a 'gentlemans agreement' is probably in place - I'm intrigued as to whether a team (by law or rule) is bound to that though. Interesting.

They aren't "official" until managers sign, date, and exchange them with each other and the umpire.

This can be a problem if you play fantasy baseball and you lose a player for a day if he stays on the DL - I know.

[Diamond Dog]

Right thanks for that guys.

I'm intrigued that even two diehard fans like you aren't actually certain about it..... I would have thought there has to be a given time for teamsheets to be handed over... I'm going to do some research. Pretty sure Hatz's version of a 'gentlemans agreement' is probably in place - I'm intrigued as to whether a team (by law or rule) is bound to that though. Interesting.

They aren't "official" until managers sign, date, and exchange them with each other and the umpire.

This can be a problem if you play fantasy baseball and you lose a player for a day if he stays on the DL - I know.

Right... so there is a time when managers exchange team sheets and no further changes can be made, Sloop?

That's exactly what I wanted to know.

So you could, as you hand over your team sheet, slip in a leftie for a righty... or the other way.

Why don;t teams do it more (if their rotation allows it)?

Thank you.

[sloopjohnc]

Right thanks for that guys.

I'm intrigued that even two diehard fans like you aren't actually certain about it..... I would have thought there has to be a given time for teamsheets to be handed over... I'm going to do some research. Pretty sure Hatz's version of a 'gentlemans agreement' is probably in place - I'm intrigued as to whether a team (by law or rule) is bound to that though. Interesting.

They aren't "official" until managers sign, date, and exchange them with each other and the umpire.

This can be a problem if you play fantasy baseball and you lose a player for a day if he stays on the DL - I know.

Right... so there is a time when managers exchange team sheets and no further changes can be made, Sloop?

That's exactly what I wanted to know.

So you could, as you hand over your team sheet, slip in a leftie for a righty... or the other way.

Why don;t teams do it more (if their rotation allows it)?

Thank you.

Yes, when you go to a game you can see both managers talk to the home plate umpire, who is usually the "crew chief" and they'll hand in their line ups. You could conceivably slip in another pitcher, but it's really hardly, ever done. Maybe if a guy injured himself in warm ups, but that's the only way it might happen.

Baseball is weird. It almost encourages cheating in a number of ways - weighted bats, balls loaded with spit or petroleum jelly, stealing pitching signs, but teams doing it rue the day if they're caught. It's almost like Spy vs. Spy in Mad magazine.

Heck, everyone knew, or highly suspected, lots of players were juicing for 10 years, but records were being broken and people were running to the ballpark or TV to watch it so everyone looked the other way.

[sloopjohnc]

The Astros have three guys who will most likely be all-star game starters. Correa, Springer, and Altuve. All studs.

[BARON CORNY DOG]

The Astros have three guys who will most likely be all-star game starters. Correa, Springer, and Altuve. All studs.

Indeed, and I'm pretty sure Correa and Altuve aren't even putting up quite the numbers they were last year!

[sloopjohnc]

Interesting stat I heard about Astros today. Fewest strikeouts in either league and a leader in runs. Shows you don't need to swing for the fences each time to score runs.

Could be deceptive though as this year is high for HRs.

[sloopjohnc]

As a kid, I didn't know any better so I'd watch the Giants through thick and thin. Last night, the TV schedule was light, so I turned it to the Giants and Pirates. 3-0 Pirates when I turned to it, watched awhile, saw the Giants make an error and turned it. Turned it back at 5-0 and watched the umps toss both manager, Bruce Bochy, and pitching coach, Dave Righetti, a little later. Turned it to something else. Turned it back and watched the Pirates mop up a 10-3 win. Pirates' Josh Harrison is my favorite baseball player, and I don't get to see him much because he plays for Pittsburgh so it was nice seeing him go 2-5 and get an RBI.

Giants suck.

[sloopjohnc]

On local sportstalk radio, I was listening to interview with Buster Olney of ESPN. He said this may be best ever Dodger team in Los Angeles.

[toomanyhatz]

On local sportstalk radio, I was listening to interview with Buster Olney of ESPN. He said this may be best ever Dodger team in Los Angeles.

Not sure it's better than the Koufax/Drysdale-led team of '62-'66, but it's definitely up there. But until they win (or at least appear in) a World Series, such speculation is meaningless. If this thrifty FO actually goes after the pieces they need to go all the way, we'll talk. But I think they have a better shot at winning it all than we've had since then. The great 70s teams didn't win any championships and the two 80s ones were Cinderella teams who crashed back to earth the next year. This team looks like if they could just get there, they could continue to at least get close every year. Of course that's what we thought about the Cubs.

[BARON CORNY DOG]

The Astros have three guys who will most likely be all-star game starters. Correa, Springer, and Altuve. All studs.

Indeed, and I'm pretty sure Correa and Altuve aren't even putting up quite the numbers they were last year!

Spoke too soon about Altuve. He's hitting, like, .500 this month. 3 for 4 tonight.

In other news, Keuchel came back tonight and labored through 3 innings.

Here's hoping they get a stud starter, or some serious bullpen help.

[toomanyhatz]

So - Dodgers vs. Astros World Series? Could happen!

[BARON CORNY DOG]

I, who have so little, daren't presume so much.

Can't go there.

[Hightea]

On local sportstalk radio, I was listening to interview with Buster Olney of ESPN. He said this may be best ever Dodger team in Los Angeles.

"Wins two world series and we will talk. Without WS wins no team is great." hightea aka yankee fan

[BARON CORNY DOG]

[toomanyhatz]

Adrian Beltre got his 3,000th hit yesterday, a double.

He is one of the 5 or 6 greatest third basemen of all time, and he's already punched his ticket for the Hall of Fame.

And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he had another several years left.

[BARON CORNY DOG]

No argument here about Beltre. It would be cool if Houston could sign him for a few years to ensure that all Rangers in the HOF were also Astros at some point!



Watching twitter more closely than usual. I'm worried about Houston's pitching. We need more and better. Here's hoping they can pull something off today with the trade deadline. I'm not optimistic.

[toomanyhatz]

Meanwhile, the Dodgers get Darvish for the stretch run and the post-season, shore up the lefty side of their 'pen, and only give up one high-level prospect, who due to lacking a position probably didn't figure into their plans in the long run.

The best team in baseball just got better.