FA told Graham Taylor not to pick too many black players for England

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Re: FA told Graham Taylor not to pick too many black players for England

Postby Diamond Dog » 08 Jun 2015, 13:11

You haven't earnt one.

Simply because I have stated there is still both overt and covert racism in football - the overt is certainly is much smaller than previously, but it's still there. And the covert racism is clearly still in place, if only taking the appallingly low % of non white managers.
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Re: FA told Graham Taylor not to pick too many black players for England

Postby Rayge » 30 Aug 2015, 22:27

Diamond Dog wrote:You haven't earnt one.

Simply because I have stated there is still both overt and covert racism in football - the overt is certainly is much smaller than previously, but it's still there. And the covert racism is clearly still in place, if only taking the appallingly low % of non white managers.


Well, I've got a freezerful anyway, but in fact I did point out that skope was seeing 'racism' purely in terms of personal hostile overt action and was unaware of the concepts of passive institutional and cultural racism, which is why he was reacting so strongly before it all got very silly.
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Re: FA told Graham Taylor not to pick too many black players for England

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Re: FA told Graham Taylor not to pick too many black players for England

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Re: FA told Graham Taylor not to pick too many black players for England

Postby Darkness_Fish » 10 May 2017, 20:41

Interesting stuff, especially the Brian Deane article in The Guardian. I can see why someone might not take a punt on Dwight Yorke, because he had such a reputation as being basically a piss-artist and playboy (although, of course if he was white, there was a good chance he'd have had a better press about that). But Brian Deane was one of those players who always came across as a proper pro, kept his head down, worked hard and made the most of his natural talent. It sounds like he tried to enter the game at a suitable level, and was basically slapped down, which I don't believe would happen to a white ex-player of his calibre.

It does look like not many black or ethnic minority players are applying for those coaching badges though, (Uefa Pro-Licence: 6.5% in 2011), is that due to institutionalised racism? It doesn't sound like there's much encouragement for a young black manager.
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Re: FA told Graham Taylor not to pick too many black players for England

Postby Diamond Dog » 11 May 2017, 13:44

As I said earlier on.... if the guys don't feel they have a fair chance of even being interviewed (let alone chosen) they won't apply. The Rooney Rule in the US absolutely proved that point.
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Re: FA told Graham Taylor not to pick too many black players for England

Postby Diamond Dog » 09 Jan 2018, 21:46

Well well.... what a shame Adam isn't here to comment :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42623021

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