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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby The Great Defector » 30 Aug 2017, 18:39

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Wouldn't agree with that. He can be a highly effective winger


Once every 10 games?


A little harsh. I'd say he's been one of the more consistent Arsenal players over the last year or so ( although that may be damning him with faint praise!). I think you may be pleasantly surprised. Your biggest issue will be keeping him injury free.


He hasn't improved in 6 years, and while Jurgen likes working with players I don't know if there's any improvement left in the ox. I mean what the fuck happened iwobi? I think/thought he is/was brilliant, now not a sniff of the first team, Walcott hasn't really improved either. Is this an Arsenal thing or just buying players with the same mental attitudes?
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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby The Modernist » 30 Aug 2017, 18:52

Having said all that, I don't see an obvious position for him in the first team right now.

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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby The Great Defector » 30 Aug 2017, 19:14

The Modernist wrote:Having said all that, I don't see an obvious position for him in the first team right now.


iwobi? I'd find somewhere to put him or get some way to give him playing time. I'd rather take him off your hands that the OX.
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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby The Modernist » 30 Aug 2017, 20:19

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The Modernist wrote:Having said all that, I don't see an obvious position for him in the first team right now.


iwobi? I'd find somewhere to put him or get some way to give him playing time. I'd rather take him off your hands that the OX.


I was talking about Ox and your first team.
As for Iwobi, he's still very young. He's only been involved in the first team for about a year, so it's a little too soon to talk of decline!
I like his composure and he can show some clever footwork, but I'm not sure he's dynamic enough to make it long term for a top club (..which Arsenal still are -in theory anyway!)

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The Modernist wrote:Having said all that, I don't see an obvious position for him in the first team right now.


Arsene does - left-back.
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The Modernist wrote:Having said all that, I don't see an obvious position for him in the first team right now.


Arsene does - left-back.


He was playing wing-back.

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Postby The Great Defector » 30 Aug 2017, 21:13

Was Brady or whoever was in charge at the time leaving have any impact on the lack of youth players coming through or young players bought improving? While some of us wouldn't want to admit it, it was interesting to watch the arsenal kids play in the opening rounds of the league cup.
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The Great Defector wrote:Was Brady or whoever was in charge at the time leaving have any impact on the lack of youth players coming through or young players bought improving? While some of us wouldn't want to admit it, it was interesting to watch the arsenal kids play in the opening rounds of the league cup.


Brady was replaced a couple of years ago. I don't think he did a great job.
To be honest just about every area of the club has been underperforming -from the academy, to scouting, to the medical department. The academy has a pretty poor record in producing top quality young players, very few have made it to the first team or gone on to have notable careers elsewhere. We do have a few exciting young talents emerging now though, so perhaps thing are getting better.

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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby The Great Defector » 30 Aug 2017, 23:39

I wish i knew more about this Lemar guy. Anyone know anything about him?
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Mahrez to Arsenal possibly?

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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

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Toby wrote:Mahrez to Arsenal possibly?


It would make sense. But Mahrez to virtually anyone in England makes sense (maybe not Man Utd, he's far too expressive for that).
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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby joklend » 31 Aug 2017, 16:53

Looking forward to some last minute swoops, cheeky bids and statements of intent before the window slams shut!

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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby The Modernist » 31 Aug 2017, 18:15

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Toby wrote:Mahrez to Arsenal possibly?


It would make sense. But Mahrez to virtually anyone in England makes sense (maybe not Man Utd, he's far too expressive for that).


Latest reports are Chelsea for 45m. I'd have loved him at Arsenal.

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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby Diamond Dog » 31 Aug 2017, 18:19

Did I see Arsenal have bid £92 for Lemar?! And he turned down the move.
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Postby The Great Defector » 31 Aug 2017, 18:25

Toby wrote:Mahrez to Arsenal possibly?


I see him ending up at Chavski for some reason, no idea why, probably won't happen.
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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby The Modernist » 31 Aug 2017, 18:31

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Toby wrote:Mahrez to Arsenal possibly?


I see him ending up at Chavski for some reason, no idea why, probably won't happen.


See above.

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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby The Modernist » 31 Aug 2017, 18:34

Diamond Dog wrote:Did I see Arsenal have bid £92 for Lemar?! And he turned down the move.


The whole thing is absurd. We bid 30m at the beginning of summer, so he's somehow managed to improve threefold over the summer.

But it's becoming clear players don't want to go to Arsenal.

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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby Rayge » 31 Aug 2017, 18:42

Daniel Levy, eh? Cashes in on wantaway wing-back whose position is covered and a failed centre-half, gets in two centre halves (ready-made international and prospect) and an international right back with a reputation to restore for a bit less, and fingers crossed that will help finally to provide a (proven) back-up striker in Llorente: plus, he still wants to add a 24-year-old international midfielder (and I wouldn't put it past him to claw that money back by selling on Janssen and even Sissoko).
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Re: "Sky Sports Understands...."

Postby Diamond Dog » 31 Aug 2017, 18:49

He's the best, no question.
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