Drug cheats - is a lifetime ban correct?
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tainted, i don't want to see either of these 2 win
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I had a discussion on FB with a friend who is into Cycling. He was angry that a "unrepentant drug cheat" had won the race that "Cav" was supposed to win. When I asked if would have been fine if "Cav" had won with the help of a drug cheat. That would have been ok. He got very upset in that our drug cheat was different from their drug cheat, and that I didn't know what I was talking about.
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Diamond Dog wrote:Looking at the 100m rounds, how is everyones perception of Gattlin & Chambers?
After seeing Chambers win his heat I looked up his biography on the net. I guess whether one believes 'drug cheats' should be given another chance may reflect on belief in rehabilitation or not. I personally beieve in giving people a second chance and reading about Chambers' challenges to return to competitive running, financial hardship and being shunned by his teammates amongst other things I feel that he's done his time. He was wrong to take performance enhancing substances but it looks like many do but don't get caught. The science required to identity illegal drug use in sport is one step behind those individuals developing new, hidden products apparently. Chambers alleged that half the USA Olympics team were using performance enhancing drugs at Beijing. Cycling is rife with rumour. The finger points at Chinese athletes...and so it goes on. Let him run.
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Chambers will get polite applause, but he won't ever capture the hearts like Ennis and Farah have.
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andymacandy wrote:Chambers will get polite applause, but he won't ever capture the hearts like Ennis and Farah have.
Indeed
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It irks me greatly that the twice convicted drugs cheat keeps someone like Tyson Gay from winning a medal.
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It's ridiculous enough letting one time offenders back, two times cheats should be banned for life.
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Diamond Dog wrote:It irks me greatly that the twice convicted drugs cheat keeps someone like Tyson Gay from winning a medal.
If you can't beat them join them...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23806237
This is the point.
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Jeemo wrote:I had a discussion on FB with a friend who is into Cycling. He was angry that a "unrepentant drug cheat" had won the race that "Cav" was supposed to win. When I asked if would have been fine if "Cav" had won with the help of a drug cheat. That would have been ok. He got very upset in that our drug cheat was different from their drug cheat, and that I didn't know what I was talking about.
Presumably referring to Vinokourov and Millar. Simple difference - Vinokourov has never confessed or given any explanation for his doping. Millar has become a great advocate of anti-doping and clean sport. I recommend Millar's autobiography 'Racing In The Dark'.
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borofan wrote:Jeemo wrote:I had a discussion on FB with a friend who is into Cycling. He was angry that a "unrepentant drug cheat" had won the race that "Cav" was supposed to win. When I asked if would have been fine if "Cav" had won with the help of a drug cheat. That would have been ok. He got very upset in that our drug cheat was different from their drug cheat, and that I didn't know what I was talking about.
Presumably referring to Vinokourov and Millar. Simple difference - Vinokourov has never confessed or given any explanation for his doping. Millar has become a great advocate of anti-doping and clean sport. I recommend Millar's autobiography 'Racing In The Dark'.
The cynic would say that Miller didn't have much of a choice
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Jeemo wrote:borofan wrote:Jeemo wrote:I had a discussion on FB with a friend who is into Cycling. He was angry that a "unrepentant drug cheat" had won the race that "Cav" was supposed to win. When I asked if would have been fine if "Cav" had won with the help of a drug cheat. That would have been ok. He got very upset in that our drug cheat was different from their drug cheat, and that I didn't know what I was talking about.
Presumably referring to Vinokourov and Millar. Simple difference - Vinokourov has never confessed or given any explanation for his doping. Millar has become a great advocate of anti-doping and clean sport. I recommend Millar's autobiography 'Racing In The Dark'.
The cynic would say that Miller didn't have much of a choice
Then the cynic is an ignorant fool.
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Well that's all good then.
At 33 years old, the twice convicted drugs cheat Justin Gatlin runs the sixth quickest 100m in history - a year after setting Personal Best's in both the 100 & 200m.
Of course all is fair in love and war, because he's commited the crimes and done the time, hasn't he?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/32734294
Makes me naueseous.
At 33 years old, the twice convicted drugs cheat Justin Gatlin runs the sixth quickest 100m in history - a year after setting Personal Best's in both the 100 & 200m.
Of course all is fair in love and war, because he's commited the crimes and done the time, hasn't he?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/32734294
Makes me naueseous.
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So one drug cheat beats another drug cheat into second, who beats another drugs cheat into third.
Excellent.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33474031
Excellent.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33474031
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a serious question, pete.
should we just let drugs into sport and be done with it?
BCB has thrived on them.
should we just let drugs into sport and be done with it?
BCB has thrived on them.
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BCB has thrived on sports?
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Diamond Dog wrote:BCB has thrived on sports?
pete, if you're not going to be serious, then just forget it.
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Serious with you? Get fucked.
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yeah yeah. your arrogance speaks volumes.