The all new Arsenal thread

[NMB]

Are you for real?

Sure why not?

You say the same shit every year and every year you're wrong!

But people also say we'll drop out of the top 4 every year and every year they're wrong too. This year I'd say we're marginally more likely to win the league than we are to drop out of the top 4. Not that I'm saying we will win it but we're in with a chance.

Given that the laws of whatever-it-is mean that we can't finish below Spurs, and assuming that Leicester won't be able to repeat their miracle of last year (having lost Kante and now having Champions League matches to play) our top 4 position basically comes down to are we better than Liverpool? And over a season I think we probably are.

[Dr Markus]

Mainly winning matches, but with trophies and playing in Europe thrown in.

Sure, ok.

[Dr Markus]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10557662/arsenal-to-allow-jack-wilshere-to-leave-club-on-loan

I actually think this is a good move for both sides.

[KeithPratt]

Congratulations to Wenger on 20 years at Arsenal.

A fantastic achievement all things considered.

[Dr Markus]

Wow, what the fuck happened chavski? Not complaining, I have money on Sanchez to score first and arsenal to win. Niiiioce.

[Dr Markus]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38939129

Arsene Wenger: Arsenal manager 'coming to the end', says Ian Wright

If true, a few years too late in my opinion.

[Diamond Dog]

Good to see Mark Clattenburg doing his bit for the "Sky 6" again this weekend...... blatant handball by Sanchez to score the first goal, and only a booking for Gibbs for just about the clearest example of "preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity" you're likely to see for many a year... well done that man, well done.

[trans-chigley express]

That handball was pretty blatant. I couldn't believe the goal stood.

[Diamond Dog]

That handball was pretty blatant. I couldn't believe the goal stood.

Somewhat compunded by Clattenburg openly telling the Hull players he probably should have disallowed the goal as they walked off at half time.

As he hadn't been able to see any footage of it at that point, what made him change his mind?

Unbelievable. Well, sadly not, in his case.

[Penk!]

It is 2017 and Arsenal have not figured out that Arjen Robben likes to cut inside onto his left and shoot.

[KeithPratt]

Still, they've got a huge away goal.

[Diamond Dog]

Still, they've got a huge away goal.

Yes that will help.

[KeithPratt]

Still, they've got a huge away goal.

Yes that will help.

Well, at the time of writing they looked like they could have scored again..

That's Wenger's Arsenal career over then.

[Diamond Dog]

Still, they've got a huge away goal.

Yes that will help.

Well, at the time of writing they looked like they could have scored again..

That's Wenger's Arsenal career over then.

I was being flippant mate.

I'm not sure about the end of his career thing - but there really does appear to be a groundswell of opinion that "maybe this time, more than any other time" the moment is ripe for a change. I think finishing outside the Top 4 would be the final nail in the coffin - and, realistically, that is very possible too. I'm beginning to think that Arsenal & Liverpool may just miss out.

[Goat Boy]

It feels different to previous failures I think. This feels like it actually might be the end for Wenger. He has been overtaken by certain younger managers. Such is life.

[Dr Markus]

It will be weird not seeing him on the touchlines if he does go. I kinda hope they go for Howe, because I'd be interested in how he does with a bigger team and better players.

[Jimbly]

Don Howe had his chance

[KeithPratt]

The people being linked with the job seems to have gathered momentum over the last week or so.

Personally I'd be surprised if they gave it to Howe; it's a huge job and as the transition with Ferguson at United showed, you need experience to be able to steer an already sailing ship in a different direction. I guess the only difference might be that Arsenal don't strike me as a club with huge personalities like say, United. It'll be interesting to see who they go for - maybe Allegri or Tuchel. Arsenal fans I'm sure will be gutted that Unai Emery is now ensconced at PSG because he would have been a great fit. And I can't see Simeone leaving AM because that feels like a step down.

[Dr Markus]

I'm just being a romantic hoping he'll get a chance. If it were Liverpool, I might not be suggesting the same thing. Of course they're gonna get a foreign manager. I wonder will wenger have any say on the next manager or be like "Fuck youse, I'm outta here mofos", but it will be in french.

[Diamond Dog]

And I can't see Simeone leaving AM because that feels like a step down.

I'm not sure it would. But it would be quite a dramatic change in style for Arsenal.

Personally, I'd think it would be a great move for the club - a bit of steel and pragmatism seems the right recipe.