Anthology of American Folk Music

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Re: Anthology of American Folk Music

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Blossom Dearie - C'est le Printemps - Plus je t'embrasse (1961)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaIarb3c0JI
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Re: Anthology of American Folk Music

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Q: What about the Rolling Stones, then?


Rocks Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNP-x94-SE

What makes the Rolling Stones interesting occurs mostly in the interval between a chord that Keith plays and Charlie's hit on the snare drum. They don't occur at the same time. There's a slight lag, but it's not haphazard. They're playing around with the notion of where the center of the beat is.

(See Hal Galper's video for more at


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ql3Jrr-rI )

You could also throw in the fact that Mick has figured out another variation on Chuck Berry's Br'er Rabbit persona. That's nothing to sniff at. Jagger's the second best Sonny Boy Williamson II impersonator there is, which isn't easy.


Keep It to Yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtRxJDb3vlw

Here's number 1.


Let's Burn Down the Cornfield
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH_zkhAqEZI
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clive gash wrote:Amazing!!


How would've this affected "BITUSA"'s impact?





The lesson is clear: a guitar may or may not kill fascists, but it is what gives dignity to many performers who, otherwise, would have no access to it.

There's no good reason for it, but the evidence is clear.

Question: What was the feeling you had when you first heard The Beatles' ``Strawberries Fields"?


Pete Townshend: Well, I really felt that they were starting to tap surreal areas. Even ``Penny Lane," which seemed like quite a jaunty ditty compared to the darkness of ``Strawberry Fields," was really looking at Liverpool and the death of English life. That never had a place in Pop before.

Getting back to The Kinks, ``Waterloo Sunset" is definitely a song about the empire and decline. A lot of English pop writing from that particular period, '67, '68, is about that. ``Tommy" is about that. ``Sergeant Pepper" is about that. We'd been in the middle of the war and felt we'd learned a peculiar lesson which hadn't been learned quite the same way in Central Europe and the States. We somehow knew that the war was over. We somehow knew we were never going to be able to get dignity and credentials from being given a gun. We were going to have to find some other way and in order to do that, we had to undermine more ... attack the country in which we'd grown up and say, ``Listen, you might think you've got it all together, but we don't think you have. We don't think it means a shit." And so, those songs were about looking at it and saying, ``Listen, we love our country. We love the peace that we've got. We love the images, the icons. We love the buildings. We love the history. But it's decaying ... it's going ... and there's a new world ahead of us.'' That's what those songs were addressing.

History of Rock and Roll (TV series)
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Re: Anthology of American Folk Music

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"Versus" does not express the real relationship between Peanuts, a name Schulz detested, and Calvin and Hobbes.

Both cartoonists were quite familiar with each other's work, especially Watterson with Schulz's. After Watterson came back from a sabbatical, his strip changed in subtle but important ways. Calvin's head became flatter. Of course, I have no proof that this is a direct homage to Schulz, but this is the shape that Schulz started out with in the early 1950s.

Schulz's accomplishments shouldn't require an imprimatur if you are paying attention, but in case you need a nod of approval from Spiegelman or someone with indie-cred like Ivan Brunetti, it isn't hard to find.
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Re: Anthology of American Folk Music

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh57-86tzsk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFQnIU3lkBQ


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Vinterberg, Dogma95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmGdcSoTvvk

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Baron wrote:And with his unexpected (and shocking) death, something coalesced. He became far more interesting to me and I heard ALL the records (even the ones that I already really liked) with new ears. I still think Diamond Dogs and Aladdin Sane are a little shaky, but I've listened to almost nothing but Bowie in the past week, and I'm not tired of it yet. There's so much in those records (through Scary Monsters or maybe Let's Dance, as far as I can tell) for me to dig into more. It just goes to show you never know.


And yet, aren't you suspicious of Bowie's acumen in myth-making? I am, as I also am of, let's say, Bruce Springsteen's myth-making. To be more specific, I mean, Bowie's or Springsteen's ability to cast themselves in elaborately thought-out settings. It's very interesting as anyone who's gone to their shows or engaged with them at them at length will attest.

Is it durable, though? (Not that that may matter all that much to you or someone else.) I, for one, feel a lot more certain about someone like John Fogerty, someone who also was interested in myth-making, but who seems to be the antithesis of Bowie or Springsteen. Bowie and Springsteen are front and center of their myths. Fogerty disappears to the point that his best songs (e.g., "Proud Mary") seem to have no author. All you're left with is the song, not the greasepaint. For the past 15 years or so, I've felt that rock and roll is performance art masquerading as music, but I also suspect that the theatrical and myth-making part of it is more fragile than we think. People who weren't all that good at it like Robbie Robertson look more ridiculous with each passing decade. The music without liner notes or authorship is what is durable.

I would not be surprised if, late at night, Bob Dylan wonders whether John Fogerty's songs will outlast his own. No one will remember John Fogerty's name specifically, but without all this excess baggage, his songs will have an easier time propagating into the future.



Henry Thomas, "Fishin' Blues"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVdpXdpzvYY


CCR, "Proud Mary"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hid10EgMXE
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Re: Anthology of American Folk Music

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Fairport Convention, Genesis Hall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyzhkVytm8E

When the rivers run thicker than trouble
I'll be there at your side in the flood
It was all I could do to keep myself
From taking revenge on your blood




Rabbit Brown, "James Alley Blues"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKHkG0GxA0E

Sometimes I think you too sweet to die,
And another time I think you ought to be buried alive.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qePHCNoEtqQ

Hmmm, hmmmm, ahhhh, oh well
Ahhhhh, ahhhh, ahhhhh, oh

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Re: Anthology of American Folk Music

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Townes van Zandt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zprRZ2wFQD4


Paul Zollo: Do you remember writing ``Pancho and Lefty''?

Townes Van Zandt: Yes. I was in Dallas in a hotel room ... a friend of who is an artist pointed out one time that
there's nothing in the song that says Pancho and Lefty ever knew each other.



Johnny Shines wrote:One time in St, Louis we were playing one of the songs that Robert would like to play with someone once in a great while, "Come On In My Kitchen". He was playing very slow and passionately, and when we had quit, I noticed no one was saying anything. Then I realised they were crying — both women and men.




Townes van Zandt, Waitin' around to Die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFh4DebJAfs

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Re: Anthology of American Folk Music

Postby take5_d_shorterer » 24 Mar 2016, 22:43

JHM wrote:
What bothers you the most: bad playing, bad writing, bad singing ... or is there a place for everything?


"Bother" is the wrong word for me here.

Playing music is a more transparent act than many musicians realize. You can see how someone thinks especially when that person improvises. If the performer doesn't know the melody and is just playing off the chords, that shows; ditto if the chords are condensed into ii-V-I all the time.

You can also tell if they never pay attention to the words even if they not singing. Jazz musicians deceive themselves all the time into thinking that this isn't evident, but it is.

If you don't understand counterpoint, that's on display as well. If you can't think of three against two, that shows. All your ignorance is on display. It's surprising anyone actually gets on stage.

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Jimmy Heath discusses the rhythmic aspect of this in the following:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgATVoTnAy8

It's not the sort of touchy-feely argument that the improviser needs to know the emotional content of the the lyrics. It's that the improviser needs to extract the rhythmic information from the syllables.

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