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A great little album by a great little band

Postby Errant Panda » 16 Jan 2009, 14:46

...or 'where did it all go wrong?'


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I still think this is a great little album, and that at the time they were a great little band (with a great guitarist).

Of course it very quickly went pear-shaped when they got too big for their boots, and way too big for their talent. The achingly self-conscious attempt to become U2 ruined them for ever.

Truth is they probably would, and should, have faded away to be fondly remembered by a small group of one time enthusiasts. But they got hoovered up in the 'next Radiohead' hype-machine that the press (and no doubt common label EMI) tried to fill the vacuum with during the long drawn-out wait for the fourth album (see also Muse), this coming out around three months before Kid A, which then defied expectations anyway. Somewhere I have an old Q in which the two main features are on Kid A and this new band Coldplay with actual songs.

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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby Moleskin » 16 Jan 2009, 14:50

One of the music channels played several Coldplay videos last night. The songs from this album were pretty good, weren't they? I think they too easily tend toward the emptily bombastic nowadays to derive much pleasure from their work.
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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby sloopjohnc » 16 Jan 2009, 14:56

I like it too.

I do think Coldplay's gone downhill despite their global popularity, but I also think part of the "stick" they get (man, I hate when Americans use English phrases) is that the English like to tear down shit once it gets popular.
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Postby Goat Boy » 16 Jan 2009, 14:58

sloopjohnc wrote: is that the English like to tear down shit once it gets popular.



Some shit is worth tearing down though.
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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 16 Jan 2009, 14:59

The follow-up was much much better.

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Postby Insouciant Western People » 16 Jan 2009, 15:00

Errant Panda wrote:Who dares to get into line with me?


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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby sloopjohnc » 16 Jan 2009, 15:05

Goat Boy wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote: is that the English like to tear down shit once it gets popular.



Some shit is worth tearing down though.


I'm not saying it isn't, but when a slap on the hand is required, the English make insults a gang initiation where everyone takes their shot even when the victim's cowering in a foetal position down on the ground.

And even then, they don't let up.
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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby Goat Boy » 16 Jan 2009, 15:07

sloopjohnc wrote:
Goat Boy wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote: is that the English like to tear down shit once it gets popular.



Some shit is worth tearing down though.


I'm not saying it isn't, but when a slap on the hand is required, the English make insults a gang initiation where everyone takes their shot even when the victim's cowering in a foetal position down on the ground.

And even then, they don't let up.


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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby Neige » 16 Jan 2009, 15:18

I agree about Coldplay's first.

A similar statement could be made about Travis, IMO.
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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby Insouciant Western People » 16 Jan 2009, 15:34

sloopjohnc wrote:... the English make insults a gang initiation where everyone takes their shot even when the victim's cowering in a foetal position down on the ground.

And even then, they don't let up.


It's our public school upbringings old chap.
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Postby Errant Panda » 16 Jan 2009, 15:40

Nick wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote:... the English make insults a gang initiation where everyone takes their shot even when the victim's cowering in a foetal position down on the ground.

And even then, they don't let up.


It's our public school upbringings old chap.


Or Chris Martin's, at least.
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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby king feeb » 16 Jan 2009, 16:56

Nope. It's a boring little album by a bland little band.

The musical equivalent of a margarine sandwich on white bread. Nothing that could be considered horrible, of course, but "great"? Not a chance.
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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 16 Jan 2009, 17:01

sloopjohnc wrote:
Goat Boy wrote:
sloopjohnc wrote: is that the English like to tear down shit once it gets popular.



Some shit is worth tearing down though.


I'm not saying it isn't, but when a slap on the hand is required, the English make insults a gang initiation where everyone takes their shot even when the victim's cowering in a foetal position down on the ground.

And even then, they don't let up.


What I find strangest about this dynamic is how arbitrary it all seems. A good portion of the bands/artists that come in for this treatment seem no worse than a lot of the ones that are beloved by the same folks.
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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby Django » 16 Jan 2009, 17:15

I was never a fan, but I did catch them on TOTP2 over Christmas. They were showing the original TOTP performance for "Yellow", and I was struck by how Chris Martin was a kid in a t-shirt playing an acoustic guitar and enjoying himself, and then 3 or 4 years later he's dressed as a 17th century infantryman all the time, and can't sing a song without wrapping his arms round his head in a series of vogue-like positions.

What happens to these people?

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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby Nikki Gradual » 16 Jan 2009, 17:19

How easily a Google image search can go wrong and screw up an entire thread.
Here's the album you were clearly after, a genuinely great album by a great little band...

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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby yomptepi » 16 Jan 2009, 17:44

Nikki Gradual wrote:How easily a Google image search can go wrong and screw up an entire thread.
Here's the album you were clearly after, a genuinely great album by a great little band...

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Ahhh

Now that is really cracking album, by a criminally underated band.
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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby PENK » 16 Jan 2009, 18:44

Nick wrote:Not I, said the Penk


Actually I think it's a perfectly listenable, though far from great, album; and I've always liked 'Yellow'.
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Re: A great little album by a great little band

Postby Errant Panda » 16 Jan 2009, 19:12

Django wrote:I was never a fan, but I did catch them on TOTP2 over Christmas. They were showing the original TOTP performance for "Yellow", and I was struck by how Chris Martin was a kid in a t-shirt playing an acoustic guitar and enjoying himself, and then 3 or 4 years later he's dressed as a 17th century infantryman all the time, and can't sing a song without wrapping his arms round his head in a series of vogue-like positions.

What happens to these people?


I saw them at the NIA on the tour of the next album. He explained in a kinda apologetic way that during the next song they'd turn on the lasershow...

It was like watching bambi being raped...
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