What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby The Modernist » 13 Aug 2017, 01:02

Matt Wilson wrote:
The Modernist wrote:artificial energy is great, The Byrds go punk, full of compressed, snarly energy. Not just one of The Byrds great tracks, but one of 60s US music's great tracks.



Punk, really? With all those horns? And the lyric sucks too. A guy is in jail for "killing a queen." He's probably on acid...


Exactly, how much more fucked up can you get. It's one of the great 60s psycho songs.

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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby Charlie O. » 13 Aug 2017, 01:22

I'm firmly in the Quaco camp re: "Space Odyssey".

But I'm sure I'm still the only one here who, if forced to pick one, would drop "Goin' Back"...
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Postby The Modernist » 13 Aug 2017, 01:39

Charlie O. wrote:I'm firmly in the Quaco camp re: "Space Odyssey".

But I'm sure I'm still the only one here who, if forced to pick one, would drop "Goin' Back"...


NO! Goin Back is perfect.

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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby Matt Wilson » 13 Aug 2017, 01:47

Agreed.
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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby Charlie O. » 13 Aug 2017, 05:50

The Modernist wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:I'm firmly in the Quaco camp re: "Space Odyssey".

But I'm sure I'm still the only one here who, if forced to pick one, would drop "Goin' Back"...


NO! Goin Back is perfect.

Musically, it is sublime; I just don't believe that guys as smart and cynical as McGuinn and Hillman would buy into that dopey sentiment for a second. I have a hard enough time accepting it from Dusty Springfield!
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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby Muskrat » 13 Aug 2017, 06:40

Charlie O. wrote: I just don't believe that guys as smart and cynical as McGuinn and Hillman would buy into that dopey sentiment for a second. I have a hard enough time accepting it from Dusty Springfield!


So singers have to buy totally into every idea in the songs they perform?

Better stay away from Randy Newman, then.
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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby Charlie O. » 13 Aug 2017, 06:44

A false equivalence, and you know it.
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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby jimboo » 13 Aug 2017, 09:44

Charlie O. wrote:
The Modernist wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:I'm firmly in the Quaco camp re: "Space Odyssey".

But I'm sure I'm still the only one here who, if forced to pick one, would drop "Goin' Back"...


NO! Goin Back is perfect.

Musically, it is sublime; I just don't believe that guys as smart and cynical as McGuinn and Hillman would buy into that dopey sentiment for a second. I have a hard enough time accepting it from Dusty Springfield!


Whoa there cowboy , Dusty owns that song.
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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby Rayge » 13 Aug 2017, 10:06

jimboo wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:
The Modernist wrote:
NO! Goin Back is perfect.

Musically, it is sublime; I just don't believe that guys as smart and cynical as McGuinn and Hillman would buy into that dopey sentiment for a second. I have a hard enough time accepting it from Dusty Springfield!


Whoa there cowboy , Dusty owns that song.


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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby Ranking Ted » 13 Aug 2017, 14:17

Artificial Energy and Goin' Back are two of the very best things on a wonderful record.

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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby pcqgod » 13 Aug 2017, 20:19

Matt Wilson wrote:
The Modernist wrote:artificial energy is great, The Byrds go punk, full of compressed, snarly energy. Not just one of The Byrds great tracks, but one of 60s US music's great tracks.



Punk, really? With all those horns? And the lyric sucks too. A guy is in jail for "killing a queen." He's probably on acid...


Novelty white soul. I'm honestly surprised anyone thinks it's anything noteworthy.
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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby //..ooOOoo..\\ » 13 Aug 2017, 23:42

It's probably my fave Byrds' track.

But then I'm not a huge fan - all that twinkling harmonic stuff does very little for me.
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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby The Modernist » 14 Aug 2017, 12:10

pcqgod wrote:
Novelty white soul. I'm honestly surprised anyone thinks it's anything noteworthy.


Novelty white soul sounds great to me!

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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby neville harp » 14 Aug 2017, 12:29

The 1969 riff in Tribal Gathering was a jaw-dropper when I first heard it.

Digging into "Requiem for The Timeless Volume 2", The Byrds family tree still leaves (he!) all others in the shade.
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Re: What do we think of: 'The Notorious Byrd Brothers'?

Postby pcqgod » 14 Aug 2017, 22:59

The Modernist wrote:
pcqgod wrote:
Novelty white soul. I'm honestly surprised anyone thinks it's anything noteworthy.


Novelty white soul sounds great to me!


To be fair, I could see it being a pretty fun song for a live performance.
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