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David Bowie vs Neil Young

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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Minnie the Minx » 12 Nov 2017, 18:53

My mum did!
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Moleskin » 12 Nov 2017, 18:57

Minnie the Minx wrote:My mum did!


So does mine.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 12 Nov 2017, 19:27

Which song?
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Moleskin » 12 Nov 2017, 19:29

Life On Mars
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 12 Nov 2017, 19:41

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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 12 Nov 2017, 20:16

I guess that settles it.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby The Modernist » 12 Nov 2017, 20:32

The claim that 'Life on Mars' is only known to fans is clearly untrue. Can't believe you agreed with that John!

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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 12 Nov 2017, 20:40

THE AVERAGE PERSON IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS UNLIKELY TO BE FAMILIAR WITH ‘LIFE ON MARS’ BY DAVID BOWIE
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 12 Nov 2017, 20:47

I didn’t say that it was “only” known to fans. But it’s not a standard either. Everybody knows Tears of a Clown. Not everyone knows Life On Mars...or After the Gold Rush...or Thunder Road...or Gimme Shelter.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Darryl Strawberry » 12 Nov 2017, 20:56

Davey is right. We move in certain circles. I am amazed at what the people I work with don't know. (And they are with me, when they discuss something that's been on constant rotation on Radio One)
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Minnie the Minx » 12 Nov 2017, 20:56

What about this and that and the other?
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby kewl klive » 12 Nov 2017, 21:18

Neil Young’s artistry is relatable, Bowie’s wasn’t.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Robert » 12 Nov 2017, 22:28

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Making Levi’s or making haute couture and never the twain shall meet.

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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Diamond Dog » 13 Nov 2017, 11:22

kewl klive wrote:Neil Young’s artistry is relatable, Bowie’s wasn’t.


What a completely vacuous nonsensical and bullshit statement that is. Total fucking garbage. Means absolutely fucking nothing.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby fange » 13 Nov 2017, 12:38

Matt Harringay wrote:
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The Modernist wrote:I think I'd struggle to name 10 NY songs that have really impacted upon the wider public consciousness.

I think I can come up with 10 pretty easily.

'Mr. Soul'
'Cinnamon Girl'
'Heart of Gold'
'Ohio'
'The Needle and the Damage Done'
'Old Man'
'Like A Hurricane'
'Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)'
'Harvest Moon'
'Over and Over'
'Rockin' in the Free World'

I'd say all of these have pretty much become rock standards, beloved all over the world.


I wouldn't.

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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 14 Nov 2017, 14:07

I’ve been thinking about this and I’ve decided that Bowie is the better songwriter.

Just listen to ‘Changes’ if you want proof. If that doesn’t work, I can give you half a dozen more.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby fange » 14 Nov 2017, 14:33

I would certainly say he was more adaptable as a songwriter, able to write great songs in a variety of styles; rock, folky, soul and funk, pop, krautrocky, even jazzy. NY was very good at the rock and folk/country stuff, but little beyond that.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Dr. E. PLATE » 14 Nov 2017, 14:47

I just think DB wrote a greater number of classic melodies. Which is a skill normally associated with ‘traditional’ artists, is it not? so the idea seems counterintuitive, maybe. But he did.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 14 Nov 2017, 14:54

I think Bowie was a far better record maker. I’ll agree that his melodies are often really strong (and often undervalued), but so are Young’s. Ultimately I think Neil is better as a pure songwriter. His songs are durable. Anyone can sing them and they retain their power. Meanwhile Bowie’s songs are often vehicles for his performances and whatever his production inspiration of the moment was. They can hide behind their abstraction and their projected cool sometimes in a way that Young’s never do. Meanwhile Neil’s songs tend to employ the “shortest distance to the emotional core” method.
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Re: David Bowie vs Neil Young

Postby fange » 14 Nov 2017, 14:58

I agree largely with that, Davey.
It's hard for me to judge or compare them just on the point of how many classic melodies they wrote; i never really just think in those terms. For me it's more about the songs as a whole, and maybe even more so about each song as a record. Who was able to capture something special musically better or more often.

For me, that's been Bowie.
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