Final Beatles song to be released as part of expanded Red and Blue

[GoogaMooga]

"Now and Then" it is called. Was meant for the Anthology series, but technology wasn't there yet for what was essentially a raw demo. September 2023.

[The Slider]

Can't wait*











*can absolutely wait

[robertff]

Have heard it already, doesn't sound great.



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[toomanyhatz]

I believe you are conflating two things.

Reports I am seeing say the final version of "Now and Then" is due out this year. I am also seeing reports that the Red and Blue albums (1962-1966 and 1967-1970; presumably both will retain those titles) are due a re-issue (presumably a 50th anniversary edition?) in September.

I don't believe the two are connected; is there somewhere that says they are?

[GoogaMooga]

I believe you are conflating two things.

Reports I am seeing say the final version of "Now and Then" is due out this year. I am also seeing reports that the Red and Blue albums (1962-1966 and 1967-1970; presumably both will retain those titles) are due a re-issue (presumably a 50th anniversary edition?) in September.

I don't believe the two are connected; is there somewhere that says they are?

Read it on Facebook, but forget the context. I think it was one of those ads they pick for you.

[toomanyhatz]

"Those ads they pick for you" are often AI. I strongly believe the headline is misleading (though folks here aren't likely to be misled by it to be fair). This might be a bit nitpicky, but I'd recommend changing it.

Actually, I haven't seen anything to say that the Red and Blue albums are going to be expanded, for that matter.

[BARON CORNY DOG]

Actually, I haven't seen anything to say that the Red and Blue albums are going to be expanded, for that matter.

On the other hand, what better way to sell the damn things again?

[GoogaMooga]

"Those ads they pick for you" are often AI. I strongly believe the headline is misleading (though folks here aren't likely to be misled by it to be fair). This might be a bit nitpicky, but I'd recommend changing it.

Actually, I haven't seen anything to say that the Red and Blue albums are going to be expanded, for that matter.

Just reporting what I read. And Red and Blue will be expanded (not that I care).

[toomanyhatz]

Read in some ad that you don't remember. Source for Red and Blue being expanded?

[toomanyhatz]

Never mind - I found an article that connected them. It certainly reads like it was written by a bot. There has been no report from the Beatles camp that the release of "Now and Then" and the Red and Blue albums are in any way connected. Not saying they're not, just saying there's no evidence that they are.

It's actually based on a news report about Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller) visiting Abbey Road studios. Listening to the podcast done by Jilette now.

[toomanyhatz]

Penn, at least, does not in any way say (or imply) that the Red and Blue albums are going to be expanded. He talks about the remix process for both Now and Then and those albums, but doesn't connect them.

"Final Beatles song to be released" seems 100% accurate, however. Just not seeing any credible sources for the rest.

[GoogaMooga]

Good detective work, Hatz. It may have been written by a bot, what a scam. I did not know they had bots doing such "news" reports, seems a pointless exercise to me. But, we shall see in the fall...

On a different note, is there any way you can listen to the unreleased Now and Then online? I hope they release it as a single, because there is no way I am going to buy the red and blue again.

[The Slider]

As an aside, Blue needs no expanding
The Red was always woefuly deficient on the Revolver (and Rain) front and is less than an hour long anyway
It could definitely use expansion

[Tom Waits For No One]

The Red was always woefuly deficient......It could definitely use expansion

Do it, do it.

[GoogaMooga]

I love the Red; Blue not so much. Red is absolutely perfect, but then I prefer early Beatles to late Beatles.

[The Slider]

The Red was always woefuly deficient......It could definitely use expansion

Do it, do it.

I did.
There is a note in the folder in my complete Beatles Mp3 set that reads:
"Why, on a double album that only runs to 63 minutes, do they include 6 tracks from Rubber Soul but only 2 from Revolver? Why not include Tomorrow Never Knows, Got to Get You Into My Life, I'm Only Sleeping, Here, There and Everywhere, all of which are as important as - or moreso than - say, Girl or Michelle ?. The version I made for my own listening pleasure has all those plus I Saw Her Standing There, Twist and Shout, It Won't Be Long, I Should Have Known Better and The Night Before and still comes in shorter than the Blue album."

The original track listing:

Side One
1. "Love Me Do" 2:22
1962 mono mix from Please Please Me and later single releases (no Ringo)
2. "Please Please Me" 2:01
1963 mono mix from Please Please Me and single release
3. "From Me to You" 1:57
1963 mono single mix
4. "She Loves You" 2:22
1963 mono single mix
5. "I Want to Hold Your Hand" 2:26
1966 stereo mix from A Collection of Beatles Oldies
6. "All My Loving" 2:09
1963 stereo mix from With the Beatles
7. "Can't Buy Me Love" 2:13
1964 stereo mix from UK version of A Hard Day's Night

Side Two
1. "A Hard Day's Night" 2:34
1964 stereo mix from UK version of A Hard Day's Night
2. "And I Love Her" 2:31
1964 stereo mix from UK version of A Hard Day's Night
3. "Eight Days a Week" 2:44
1964 stereo mix from Beatles for Sale
4. "I Feel Fine" 2:20
1964 stereo mix from A Collection of Beatles Oldies
5. "Ticket to Ride" 3:11
1987 stereo remix
6. "Yesterday" 2:05
1987 stereo remix

Side Three
1. "Help!" 2:20
1987 stereo remix
2. "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" 2:11
1987 stereo remix
3. "We Can Work It Out" 2:16
1966 stereo mix from A Collection of Beatles Oldies
4. "Day Tripper" 2:49
1966 stereo mix from A Collection of Beatles Oldies
5. "Drive My Car" 2:28
1987 stereo remix
6. "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" 2:05
1987 stereo remix

Side Four
1. "Nowhere Man" 2:44
1987 stereo remix
2. "Michelle" 2:42
1987 stereo remix
3. "In My Life" 2:27
1987 stereo remix
4. "Girl" 2:31
1987 stereo remix
5. "Paperback Writer" 2:19
1966 stereo mix from A Collection of Beatles Oldies
6. "Eleanor Rigby" 2:08
1966 stereo mix from UK version of Revolver
7. "Yellow Submarine" 2:39
1966 stereo mix from UK version of Revolver

[The Slider]

Double Post - sorry

[The Slider]

My version.
I've uploaded to Kev's dropbox.


96 minutes over two discs.

Disc One
1 Love Me Do 2:25 1962
2 Please Please Me 2:01 1963
3 I Saw Her Standing There 2:58 1963
4 Twist And Shout 2:36 1963
5 From Me to You 1:58 1963
6 She Loves You 2:23 1963
7 I Want To Hold Your Hand 2:27 1963
8 This Boy 2:16 1963
9 It Won't Be Long 2:16 1963
10 All My Loving 2:13 1963
11 Eight Days A Week 2:50 1964
12 Can't Buy Me Love 2:17 1964
13 A Hard Day's Night 2:35 1964
14 And I Love Her 2:34 1964
15 I Should Have Known Better 2:47 1964
16 I Feel Fine 2:23 1964
17 Ticket To Ride 3:08 1965
18 Yesterday 2:10 1965
19 The Night Before 2:37 1965
20 You're Going To Lose That Girl 2:22 1965

Disc Two
1 Help! 2:23 1965
2 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away 2:12 1965
3 We Can Work It Out 2:15 1965
4 Day Tripper 2:53 1965
5 Drive My Car 2:34 1965
6 Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) 2:09 1965
7 Nowhere Man 2:47 1965
8 Michelle 2:41 1965
9 In My Life 2:30 1965
10 Girl 2:35 1965
11 Paperback Writer 2:26 1966
12 Rain 3:01 1966
13 Eleanor Rigby 2:10 1966
14 Yellow Submarine 2:42 1966
15 I'm Only Sleeping 3:03 1966
16 Here, There And Everywhere 2:26 1966
17 Got To Get You Into My Life 2:39 1966
18 Tomorrow Never Knows 2:58 1966

All in their original Mono mixes - 2009/2010 remasters
Track one is the single recording with Ringo on drums.

[Tom Waits For No One]

and jolly good it is too.

[Limpin' Jez McKenzie]

This is slightly odd, but I knew before I read the list of Slider's tracks that it would fail in one obvious regard.

You can't have Twist and Shout - the idea behind the Red and Blue albums was that they contained
Beatles originals only.
That aside, it is clearly a better list than the original red album.