First music death you took notice of and the one that affected you the most

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First music death you took notice of and the one that affected you the most

Postby GoogaMooga » 24 Mar 2021, 22:11

Sorry to be morbid, but I have been thinking a lot about death lately. The pandemic, the vaccine, the geopolitical order, the Great Reset, etc. etc. And I have been looking back on my life, what has been the single most important thing in my life? The answer is: music. Which led me to pose these questions for my topic today.

!. First music death I took notice of: Duke Ellington, 1976. Followed by Elvis Presley, 1977.
2. Music death that affected me the most: George Harrison, 2001. I wept.

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Postby Charlie O. » 25 Mar 2021, 04:38

The first one I took notice of would have been Brian Jones. I was 3 going on 4, and I liked the Stones' music, but I didn't really know them well enough to even know the names of the other members or what they did in the group, so I can't say it deeply affected me. But I did take notice of it.

Which death affected me the most? It probably ought to have been John Lennon, but I think I was too immediately shocked by that to even feel much grief; once the shock began to subside, I just accepted it, more or less. I took George's death pretty philosophically, in part because I knew he did - plus he'd had a number of what you might call "near death" experiences in the several years leading up to it, so I'd had time to get used to the idea. I was more affected by John Fahey's death (although that wasn't entirely unexpected either); not only was he one of my musical heroes, but he was someone I had had the opportunity to talk with on a number of occasions and I was personally fond of him (although he was nuts). Same with Steve Weber of the Holy Modal Rounders (who had been cheating death for several decades by the time it finally caught up with him).

But I think the one that affected me the most - that still affects me - is that of Tom Rapp (of Pearls Before Swine). That's partly down to personal regret. He and I had a short-lived e-mail correspondence back in 2000. I had read that he was seeking control of the rights (and tapes) of his first two albums, and I knew someone who I thought might be able to be of some help (I never found out if he was or not); a month or so later Tom wrote a nice e-mail back apologizing for not replying sooner, thanking me for the information, and ending with "I'm amazed you took the time to help out so unexpectedly. Please stay in contact--I PROMISE to reply virtually instantaneously (i.e., within 2-3 days)." But aside from one more brief back-n-forth, I didn't stay in touch. Towards the end, I knew he had cancer, and I planned to write to him to tell him how much his music meant to me, and to wish him well... but I'm a procrastinator and I never got around to it and then he died.
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Postby GoogaMooga » 25 Mar 2021, 07:34

Thank you for your reply, Charlie, quite moving for me to read. I am afraid I only know Fahey by name, but Pearls Before Swine - I've got the two ESP albums, and they are excellent and otherworldly. To take notice of Brian's death at such a tender age, that is most unusual.
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Postby C » 25 Mar 2021, 08:17

The death of very few musicians really move me as I don't know them personally

Okay, one becomes attached to them but to be 'affected' is a different manner.

However, there are a few.

As a sixteen year old it was Brian Jones. I loved the Rolling Stones (and The Beatles and The Beach Boys) and got my mum to buy me their records from 1963 onwards. He had an affect on me but more disappointment that such a cool bloke wouldn't be on TOTP et al any more

Next, a couple of years later, was Duane Allman. Now that affected me more than Jones - The Allman Brothers, for me, were something very special. Ditto when Berry Oakley went the following year and Gregg a few decades later.

Next, was Zappa - that did affect me. God had died. Enough said.

The only other death that affected me that comes to mind is Dick Heckstall-Smith

Not only a great musician but also a good socialist [the last time I saw him was in the early 1990s fronting his own band at the Ally Pally, at a Morning Star rally].

I suppose for me I focus on the positive - the legacy of great music left behind - which lives on much longer than the flesh, bones and blood

RIP: Brian, Duane, Berry, Gregg, Frank and Dick and all the rest

Gone but certainly not forgotten

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Postby never/ever » 25 Mar 2021, 09:36

The first I vividly remember was Elvis at the age of 10. I wasn't a fan but the sheer scope of people grieving was amazing....all the radio programming got pulled immediately and replaced by a memorial. My mother was a fan so there was a bit of a personal touch to it.

Lennons death was equally brought via radio- Waling up on a Tuesday morning, hearing Felix Meurders declare his death on VARA-radio. This one did hurt and took a while to reconcile. My English teacher during class that day broke down and decided to talk about John and play Beatles-records. It was very moving.

Personally the one death that knocked me about the most was Edgar Froese. I'm a Tangerine Dream-fan from youth, ever since my uncle gave me a tape of Tangram. I only saw the band 3 times in Europe and ever since I moved to Australia I was hoping to see them one more time before Edgar packed it all in as part of his Quantum Years- program. It was the reason I traveled to the States to watch the band on Cruise To The Edge in 2013 as talk would have it the band would never tour here. There I got to meet him, have dinner and enjoy the concerts on board.At the time he did look very fragile, still healing from a bad fall he had taken the year earlier.
I certainly thought that was going to be the last time I was seeing this band...to be surprised that Tangerine Dream would actually perform at a festival in Melbourne in 2014. It would be Edgar's last hurrah as he passed away two months later...I sat in my sister's home in the Netherlands at the time, she was recovering from surgery but I was the one needing the healing. I was grateful fur the impromptu Prog Listening Session organised here, certainly helped with dealing with it

Honorary mention- Bowie. Still one of the most unbelievable events of the last decade.
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Postby never/ever » 25 Mar 2021, 09:51

Superb take Charlie about Tom Rapp....reminded me about missing Bo Diddley playing live, opting out of going to see him and then hearing he passed away a few months later.
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Postby Geezee » 25 Mar 2021, 10:00

I don't think I've still fully processed Kurt Cobain's death. I was 14 and his music meant everything to me and it was all reaching a peak - In Utero, then the Unplugged, and then a gig at Brixton Academy in 1994, which was also meant to be the first gig I would go to without parental supervision with my friends. When things are really bad, I can sometimes still tap into that very raw energy that I felt for a long, long time after the news of his death and it is frightening.
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Postby Rorschach » 25 Mar 2021, 10:44

I seem to remember Jimi and Brian and that lot but they didn't mean a lot to me. The first one I really took notice of was probably Elvis.
The first one that upset me was Marc Bolan, just one month later.
But the one that really hurt was John Lennon. I was just coming to the end of one of the happiest times of my life and I was woken up on my birthday with the news that he'd been killed. I went to work with tears streaming down my face. It felt symbolic of the end of good times.

I've since revised my opinion and I think it's a shame it hadn't happened several years earlier.
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Postby The Slider » 25 Mar 2021, 10:47

Elvis was the first one I took notice of and Bowie was the one where I felt like a part of me went with them.

Honourable mentions to Kirsty MacColl, Chris Squire, Joe Strummer and John Peel.
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Postby Minnie the Minx » 25 Mar 2021, 12:44

GoogaMooga wrote:Sorry to be morbid, but I have been thinking a lot about death lately. The pandemic, the vaccine, the geopolitical order, the Great Reset, etc. etc


Why would the vaccine and The Great Reset make you think about death?
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Postby GoogaMooga » 25 Mar 2021, 14:18

Minnie the Minx wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:Sorry to be morbid, but I have been thinking a lot about death lately. The pandemic, the vaccine, the geopolitical order, the Great Reset, etc. etc


Why would the vaccine and The Great Reset make you think about death?


I have read many conflicting views on this matter, and I am very afraid and confused. I really don't want to discuss it.
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Postby GoogaMooga » 25 Mar 2021, 14:22

Harrison hit me a lot harder than Lennon, where I just felt kind of numb. Maybe because by the time of Harrison's passing, Beatles were more, much more important to me, but also, because Harrison was my favorite Beatle, and he seemed more genuine than Lennon with regard to the messages he was trying to convey. But I still like all four Beatles for various reasons.
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Postby GoogaMooga » 25 Mar 2021, 14:26

Geezee wrote:I don't think I've still fully processed Kurt Cobain's death. I was 14 and his music meant everything to me and it was all reaching a peak - In Utero, then the Unplugged, and then a gig at Brixton Academy in 1994, which was also meant to be the first gig I would go to without parental supervision with my friends. When things are really bad, I can sometimes still tap into that very raw energy that I felt for a long, long time after the news of his death and it is frightening.


I too had a ticket for Nirvana in 1994, in Copenhagen, and he committed suicide just before. Many fans held on to their unused tickets, and capitalized on selling them. I just returned mine and got my money back. Cobain's death was extremely tragic, so pointless, but he was in pain, both physically and emotionally.
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Postby Minnie the Minx » 25 Mar 2021, 14:27

GoogaMooga wrote:
Minnie the Minx wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:Sorry to be morbid, but I have been thinking a lot about death lately. The pandemic, the vaccine, the geopolitical order, the Great Reset, etc. etc


Why would the vaccine and The Great Reset make you think about death?


I have read many conflicting views on this matter, and I am very afraid and confused. I really don't want to discuss it.


Fair enough!
When I want to not discuss something, I tend to not write about it on an Internet forum but I’m just a crazy broad!
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Postby GoogaMooga » 25 Mar 2021, 14:30

Minnie the Minx wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:
Minnie the Minx wrote:
Why would the vaccine and The Great Reset make you think about death?


I have read many conflicting views on this matter, and I am very afraid and confused. I really don't want to discuss it.


Fair enough!
When I want to not discuss something, I tend to not write about it on an Internet forum but I’m just a crazy broad!


I try to stay apolitical online, as debates can flare up. If you like, I can delete that part of my original post.
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Postby Minnie the Minx » 25 Mar 2021, 14:31

Eh? Don’t be daft
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Postby Minnie the Minx » 25 Mar 2021, 14:32

ANYWAY

First aware of : Lennon
First moved by: Peel, Strummer, Poly Styrene
A sledgehammer to everything: Bowie
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Postby GoogaMooga » 25 Mar 2021, 14:34

I will be getting the vaccine, though, Pfizer's. With two illnesses, I don't have really have any choice.
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Postby Minnie the Minx » 25 Mar 2021, 14:39

FFS
So you DO want to talk about it?
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Postby GoogaMooga » 25 Mar 2021, 14:41

Minnie the Minx wrote:FFS
So you DO want to talk about it?
You’re driving me to drink!


:lol: Sorry
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