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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:30

John aka Josh wrote:
C wrote:Ok then, if push comes to shove what is your fave RtF album.....?




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For at least the next thirty minutes it is Where Have I Known You Before, but in an hour's time it might well be Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy.


No Mystery is most excellent too.

I have a problem with the first two. Not for the music but Flora Purim's vocals

They spoil it for me





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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 16 Feb 2021, 21:32

C wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I never rated the Al Di Meola solo albums


What you reckon?






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I have a double cd called Anthology that takes the best of them. It is good, but there is nothing to match any of these tracks.

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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby John aka Josh » 16 Feb 2021, 21:33

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LMG wrote:Lovely, intricate stuff.

Funny to think that when I was growing up, this was 'jazz', and was all the jazz people under thirty knew.


Yes, but at least it's a start for the kids

Zap, our eldest plays double bass - he's grade 6 and he is good but he only follows classical dots.

I have been trying to get him to play a bit of jazz. I might be getting somewhere - at last!






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Good news!




Such a shame there's no recorded evidence of players like Beethoven and Chopin improvising - sure I've read that Beethoven could improvise for an hour and half, holding his audience in rapt attention.
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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby John aka Josh » 16 Feb 2021, 21:33

C wrote:
John aka Josh wrote:
C wrote:Ok then, if push comes to shove what is your fave RtF album.....?




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For at least the next thirty minutes it is Where Have I Known You Before, but in an hour's time it might well be Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy.


No Mystery is most excellent too.

I have a problem with the first two. Not for the music but Flora Purim's vocals

They spoil it for me





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Spot on!

The vocals spoil it.
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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 16 Feb 2021, 21:35

C wrote:
John aka Josh wrote:
C wrote:Ok then, if push comes to shove what is your fave RtF album.....?




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For at least the next thirty minutes it is Where Have I Known You Before, but in an hour's time it might well be Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy.


No Mystery is most excellent too.

I have a problem with the first two. Not for the music but Flora Purim's vocals

They spoil it for me





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Somewhere I have this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Return-Forever ... sic&sr=1-4

Every time I play it the puzzlement on my face is a remarkable thing to behold.

It was not cheap, either.

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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:35

John aka Josh wrote:Such a shame there's no recorded evidence of players like Beethoven and Chopin improvising - sure I've read that Beethoven could improvise for an hour and half, holding his audience in rapt attention.


Did you ask Bill & Ted....?

Most audacious





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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 16 Feb 2021, 21:36

John aka Josh wrote:
C wrote:
LMG wrote:Lovely, intricate stuff.

Funny to think that when I was growing up, this was 'jazz', and was all the jazz people under thirty knew.


Yes, but at least it's a start for the kids

Zap, our eldest plays double bass - he's grade 6 and he is good but he only follows classical dots.

I have been trying to get him to play a bit of jazz. I might be getting somewhere - at last!






.





Good news!




Such a shame there's no recorded evidence of players like Beethoven and Chopin improvising - sure I've read that Beethoven could improvise for an hour and half, holding his audience in rapt attention.


I have a couple of bootlegs on a Russian label. One of them is spoilt by audience coughing throughout.

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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby John aka Josh » 16 Feb 2021, 21:36

C wrote:
John aka Josh wrote:Such a shame there's no recorded evidence of players like Beethoven and Chopin improvising - sure I've read that Beethoven could improvise for an hour and half, holding his audience in rapt attention.


Did you ask Bill & Ted....?

Most audacious





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:lol: :lol:







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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 16 Feb 2021, 21:36

Such wags we are!

:lol:

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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby John aka Josh » 16 Feb 2021, 21:38

LMG wrote:
John aka Josh wrote:
C wrote:
Yes, but at least it's a start for the kids

Zap, our eldest plays double bass - he's grade 6 and he is good but he only follows classical dots.

I have been trying to get him to play a bit of jazz. I might be getting somewhere - at last!






.





Good news!




Such a shame there's no recorded evidence of players like Beethoven and Chopin improvising - sure I've read that Beethoven could improvise for an hour and half, holding his audience in rapt attention.


I have a couple of bootlegs on a Russian label. One of them is spoilt by audience coughing throughout.



Always the way with Russian bootlegs.
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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:39

LMG wrote:

Somewhere I have this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Return-Forever ... sic&sr=1-4

Every time I play it the puzzlement on my face is a remarkable thing to behold.

It was not cheap, either.


I remember that.

I have the single album with this cover

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I think, a couple years later (?) they released a six(?) album version





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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:40

John aka Josh wrote:
I have a couple of bootlegs on a Russian label. One of them is spoilt by audience coughing throughout.



Always the way with Russian bootlegs.


it's the vodka




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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 16 Feb 2021, 21:41

Is it just me, or does this track lean a bit more towards 'filler' than in the direction of 'blowout finale to a terrific album'?

Don't mean to be a wet blanket.

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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:41

My only criticism of this album is that Chick should have played more piano and less synth

There. I have said it!




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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 16 Feb 2021, 21:42

C wrote:
LMG wrote:

Somewhere I have this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Return-Forever ... sic&sr=1-4

Every time I play it the puzzlement on my face is a remarkable thing to behold.

It was not cheap, either.


I remember that.

I have the single album with this cover

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I think, a couple years later (?) they released a six(?) album version





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I think it was four LPs, and my CD set has all of them.

Really disappointing for reasons mentioned.

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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:42

LMG wrote:Is it just me, or does this track lean a bit more towards 'filler' than in the direction of 'blowout finale to a terrific album'?

Don't mean to be a wet blanket.


No, I feel the same





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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:43

Stanley's bass playing is amazing on this track





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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:44

I think they are trying to do a Mahavishnu on this track and slightly lack the credentials.....





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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 16 Feb 2021, 21:45

C wrote:
LMG wrote:Is it just me, or does this track lean a bit more towards 'filler' than in the direction of 'blowout finale to a terrific album'?

Don't mean to be a wet blanket.


No, I feel the same





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To give them their due, putting this stuff together must have been hellish.

There is a very fine line between virtuoso and full of music on the one hand and self-indulgent and full of hubbard on the other...

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Re: LL/In Memoriam: Chick Corea, Tuesday 16th February @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Feb 2021, 21:45

It's a very good album though





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