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7" Single Edit

Postby The Slider » 21 Jan 2021, 18:53

Here is what I think is an anomily

James' single Born of Frustration runs some 5.32ish - reasonably long for a 7" single. It is the same edit on both the 12" and CD singles too.
When it was released on the album Seven, a month or so later, it appeared in a version some 70 seconds shorter (4.22) missing the 15 second intro and a few lines / stanzas during the course of the song (though it is the same recording - just edited)

Aside from specially extended 12" remix type nonsenses, can we think of any other cases where the regular 7" single version of a song is longer than the album?
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Charlie O. » 21 Jan 2021, 19:19

The (Young) Rascals' "It's Wonderful" 45 had an 8-second intro and a demented coda that were chopped off when the song subsequently appeared on LP (Once Upon A Dream, Time Peace).





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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby The Slider » 21 Jan 2021, 19:21

There we go - good one, Charlie
There must be more, of course.
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby C » 21 Jan 2021, 19:33

I don't know if this counts but '17' which was the B-side of Jethro Tull's 'Sweet Dream' and was a non-album track ran for over 6 minutes [nearly 6:30 I recall].

It later appeared as a bonus track on a remastered versions of "Stand Up but before that, I think, on one or two compilations in a much shortened version - about 3 minutes and faded after about 20 seconds of fantastic instrumental meandering.

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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Charlie O. » 21 Jan 2021, 19:36

Seems fair to me!
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Charlie O. » 21 Jan 2021, 19:38

That YouTube clip has the BCB logo in it!
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Phenomenal Cat » 22 Jan 2021, 04:03

The 7" version of Queen's "I Want to Break Free" is about a minute longer than the album version.
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby trans-chigley express » 23 Jan 2021, 04:04

Marillion's Lavender was expanded from the 2:27 album version to 3:40 single version after adding a chorus and expanding the guitar solo. Most of their other songs had to be reduced in length for single release.

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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Charlie O. » 23 Jan 2021, 04:16

The Mothers Of Invention's "Lonely Little Girl" is just over a minute long on We're Only In It For The Money and 2:44 on the 45... but that's a bit of a cheat: the 45 is actually a medley of that song and "Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance", plus maybe 20-odd seconds of material exclusive to the 45.


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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Tom Waits For No One » 23 Jan 2021, 16:25

Aztec Camera - Walk Out To Winter 7" version 3:48, album version 3:26
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Phenomenal Cat » 23 Jan 2021, 18:05

Of course! The 1:44 "Outdoor Miner" by Wire was given an additional verse, chorus, and piano solo to make it a 2:51 single.
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby 50 Shades Of Blue » 24 Jan 2021, 16:22

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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Rorschach » 24 Jan 2021, 16:39

Get Back?

There's an extra bit at the end of the single version, the 'Get back Loretta' bit.
But then Spector added some talking bits to the album version and I'm not sure which one ended up being the longer.
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Rorschach » 24 Jan 2021, 16:42

I've checked and apparently the single version is 7 seconds longer.
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Dr. Baron » 24 Jan 2021, 19:24

Phenomenal Cat wrote:Of course! The 1:44 "Outdoor Miner" by Wire was given an additional verse, chorus, and piano solo to make it a 2:51 single.


That piano solo is an abomination.
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Minnie the Minx » 24 Jan 2021, 19:51

Dr. Baron wrote:
Phenomenal Cat wrote:Of course! The 1:44 "Outdoor Miner" by Wire was given an additional verse, chorus, and piano solo to make it a 2:51 single.


That piano solo is an abomination.


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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby The Slider » 25 Jan 2021, 11:42

So there are a few good answers there.
It is not unprecedented but it seems quite unusual.
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby The Slider » 25 Jan 2021, 11:46

Rorschach wrote:Get Back?

There's an extra bit at the end of the single version, the 'Get back Loretta' bit.
But then Spector added some talking bits to the album version and I'm not sure which one ended up being the longer.


are they not two different recordings?
If they are (and the single version's appearance on Past Masters might indicate that that is the case) then it doesn't count.
But a valiant spot all the same.

Edit: Wiki claims the same recording but very differently processed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Back#Releases


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"Producer(s) George Martin (single version) Phil Spector (album version)

Length 3:14 (single version) 3:07 (album version)"
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Charlie O. » 25 Jan 2021, 15:25

The Slider wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Get Back?

There's an extra bit at the end of the single version, the 'Get back Loretta' bit.
But then Spector added some talking bits to the album version and I'm not sure which one ended up being the longer.


are they not two different recordings?
If they are (and the single version's appearance on Past Masters might indicate that that is the case) then it doesn't count.
But a valiant spot all the same.

Edit: Wiki claims the same recording but very differently processed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Back#Releases


Also:
"Producer(s) George Martin (single version) Phil Spector (album version)

Length 3:14 (single version) 3:07 (album version)"

Same recording - Phil just added some rooftop ambience.
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Re: 7" Single Edit

Postby Carlisle Wheeling » 25 Jan 2021, 17:07

Charlie O. wrote:That YouTube clip has the BCB logo in it!


Well spotted Charlie. You've passed the test!

I uploaded that a while back for BCB use only 8-)

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