Beefheart - Spotlight is better than Shiny Beast? Oh no it's not, oh yes it is......

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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Six String » 26 Dec 2020, 23:17

I’m a sometimer as well. In the 70s I owned TMR but could never really get it and In the 80s I traded it away to a friend. I own Safe As Milk which I like a lot and Clear Spot (with the embossed flip top plastic cover) which is also quite good. It might be TMR’s fault but I’ve never been driven to explore much further. I do like avant garde, the “new thing” or however you want to label the outside jazz stuff like Ornette Coleman, Cecil Taylor, etc. but I’ve never been interested in hearing TMR again. :) Oh, I do still have Bongo Fury too but haven’t played it in donkey years.

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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby GoogaMooga » 27 Dec 2020, 05:21

Didn't he write poetry as well? I seem to recall seeing a book of poems by him at the Exchange in Notting Hill Gate way back.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby toomanyhatz » 27 Dec 2020, 05:41

I'm ultimately an "always," I think, but the stuff I feel the need to defend isn't the 'out there' stuff - which I get is an acquired taste, but I've acquired it - but rather the 'normal' stuff. Not that Unconditionally Guaranteed or Bluejeans and Moonbeams are great records by any means - though the first does have a couple really good tracks - but they're not utter sellouts or completely lacking in personality either. By comparison to his others, not so great. Compared to ordinary music of the period? I think if we didn't have TMR for comparison, we'd think of them as pleasant period pieces.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby robertff » 27 Dec 2020, 06:54

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I take your 90% and raise it another 5%. However, I quite like soft rock classic "Love, will keep us together" he made with Tennille




That was funny, made me chuckle.


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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby robertff » 27 Dec 2020, 06:55

Can't believe Strictly Personal hasn't been mentioned once yet, I absolutely love that album, his very finest for me.



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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Charlie O. » 27 Dec 2020, 07:14

robertff wrote:Can't believe Strictly Personal hasn't been mentioned once yet, I absolutely love that album, his very finest for me.

One of my favorites, too.
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Postby Walk In My Shadow » 27 Dec 2020, 08:04

Never.

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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby fange » 27 Dec 2020, 08:54

90+% wonderful.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Diamond Dog » 27 Dec 2020, 10:49

I'm a 'Never' and a very proud one at that.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Rayge » 27 Dec 2020, 10:58

A fan from the single release of Abba Zabba. Treasure the memory of seeing the original Magic Band in the basement room that was Middle Earth in Covent Garden in the late 1960s on their first European visit.
I never got onto the two Virgin albums or Bongo Fury, but I have all the rest, including several live boots.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby The Slider » 27 Dec 2020, 12:06

Get him? Yes.
Like it? Not much.

I did for a bit but it wore out its welcome very quickly
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 27 Dec 2020, 12:32

toomanyhatz wrote:Bluejeans and Moonbeams are great records by any means - though the first does have a couple really good tracks - but they're not utter sellouts or completely lacking in personality either.


Here's my Amazon review of said record:

The classic line-up left after the release of the album before - Unconditionally Guaranteed. That says a lot. They were the blokes who 'interpreted' Beefheart's ideas and made them playable. With the likes of Rockette Morton and Zoot Horn Rollo gone the Captain was sadly on his own. Many say he was 'lost' and it shows.

The album is a dull as ditch water and lacks any dynamism, excitement and tension that is in shedloads on earlier albums. Many reviewers have mentioned The Captain's Holiday - the personnel are unknown and the harmonica on the track is not played by Captain Beefheart by his own admission!

Same Old Blues and Twist Ah Luck are the best two tracks on the album and they are mediocre. The title track is painful as is most of the rest of the album.

Fortunately 'normal service' was resumed with the next album - Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller) which is an absolute corker! Do yourselves a favour and listen to the first track and hear the difference (The Floppy Boot Stomp).

Bluejeans And Moonbeams WAS the Tragic Band - fortunately they only made one album.

I love Beefheart but the lad did himself no favours with this turkey!






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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 27 Dec 2020, 12:33

Diamond Dog wrote:I'm a 'Never' and a very proud one at that.


Predictable!

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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 27 Dec 2020, 12:48

fange wrote:


Yes, this is delightful





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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby yomptepi » 27 Dec 2020, 14:58

I like nearly everything. I struggle with Strictly Personal and Moon beams. If pushed, then Shiny Beast is my favourite ( the Virgin version). I love everything else.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Jumper K » 27 Dec 2020, 18:09

Hell no! Unlistenable arse.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Lord Rother » 27 Dec 2020, 21:13

C wrote:I'm not sure everybody has seen this



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Christ.

Each to our own but ask me, someone devoid of even a grain of musical talent, to write a song to save my life and it would probably come out as something totally tuneless like that. I’d be shot at dawn.

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