Beefheart: Strictly Personal: phasing/reverberation - yes/no...?

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Re: Beefheart - LIST YOUR TOP 5 ALBUMS

Postby mudshark » 08 Jan 2021, 20:34

'Thorniest'... interesting expression.
Sure, it has its fair bit of awkward songs but those are interspersed between 'catchy tunes' like Run Paint Run Run and that Vampire song of which I've forgotten the full name, amongst 2 or 3 others. If my granddaughter allows it I'll give it a spin when I get back home.
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Re: Beefheart - LIST YOUR TOP 5 ALBUMS

Postby Charlie O. » 08 Jan 2021, 21:17

mudshark wrote:If my granddaughter allows it I'll give it a spin when I get back home.

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Re: Beefheart - LIST YOUR TOP 5 ALBUMS

Postby robertff » 09 Jan 2021, 10:06

Top two:

Strictly Personal
Safe as Milk

The rest all roughly take up the same space below these two. I will always have a copy of TMR and Decals even though I rarely can bring myself to listen to them. Unconditionally Guaranteed would be near the top of the rest as I really do like that album a lot.



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Re: Beefheart - LIST YOUR TOP 5 ALBUMS

Postby C » 13 Jan 2021, 10:50

mudshark wrote:Is there no love for "Doc at the Radar Station"? I think it's his best attempt to produce a 'normal' album. Where Unconditionally Guaranteed' miserably failed this one did have some Commercial Potential. With Bat Chain Puller it's the only Beefheart album that still gets regular airtime home on the ranch.


I like it Erik but Ice Cream for Crow is better. They are fairly similar in style aren't they...?

I like Unconditionally Guaranteed it's miles better than Moonbeams






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Re: Beefheart - LIST YOUR TOP 5 ALBUMS

Postby C » 16 Jan 2021, 12:54

C wrote:
My top 5 [order changes daily]

Trout Mask Replica
Lick My Decals Off, Baby
The Spotlight Kid
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)
Clear Spot


Do I swop around Spotlight with Shiny Beast....?

I play one and I think that is better.

Then I play the other and I think that one is better....!

Help me out here






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Re: Beefheart- Unconditionally Guaranteed - is that weak...?

Postby C » 20 Jan 2021, 16:22

Often coupled with Bluejeans & Moonbeams as two weak albums.

Well, my view is that UG is much better than the other one by a significant margin.

I enjoy listening to it.

Surely it’s not just me - is it?


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Re: Beefheart- Unconditionally Guaranteed - is that weak...?

Postby robertff » 20 Jan 2021, 19:14

C wrote:Often coupled with Bluejeans & Moonbeams as two weak albums.

Well, my view is that UG is much better than the other one by a significant margin.

I enjoy listening to it.

Surely it’s not just me - is it?


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Certainly not C. It’s one of my Captain favourites and has got many great tracks on it. If you’re after Captain weird, it ain’t, if you’re after some great songs it is.


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Re: Beefheart- Unconditionally Guaranteed - is it that weak...?

Postby Charlie O. » 20 Jan 2021, 19:33

To me, great songs and great performances are exactly what it lacks. But I already said my piece on page 3.
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Re: Beefheart- Unconditionally Guaranteed - is it that weak...?

Postby C » 21 Jan 2021, 10:19

I really like it.

Okay, it is a more commercial sound and the lyrics are generally mainstream but it is full of music,

Admittedly, the last couple of tracks are weaker: Lazy Music and Peaches but the rest are generally top-notch.

This is a lovely track:








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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 21 Jan 2021, 10:26

Charlie O. wrote:I'm not a fan of either album, but B&M is certainly more interesting to me than UG. The musicians sound fairly fully engaged, even if the Captain doesn't. The actual Magic Band on UG sound far more like "faceless session musicians" than the so-called Tragic Band on B&M would, and Don sounds utterly catatonic much of the time.

There's definitely a feeling on both albums that Don is anxious to avoid antagonizing the greater public. There's a lot of that with Clear Spot, as well - but Clear Spot was a compromise that worked, because the music was still full of character, the lyrics were clever, thoughtful and witty, and there were actual tunes that you didn't have to be some kind of adept to recognize as actual tunes. It should have been the one to put him over. But then, the records that Little Feat was making at the time should have made them stars, too, and didn't. Them's the breaks.



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Re: Beefheart- Unconditionally Guaranteed - is it that weak...?

Postby toomanyhatz » 22 Jan 2021, 00:08

C wrote:I really like it.

Okay, it is a more commercial sound and the lyrics are generally mainstream but it is full of music,

Admittedly, the last couple of tracks are weaker: Lazy Music and Peaches but the rest are generally top-notch.

This is a lovely track:








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Wow, I've finally found the least Beefheartish Beefheart song!

I'm sure I've heard it before, but I obviously didn't register it before. I kind of get why. It's really nondescript. And, while the Captain sings it nicely (albeit without putting much emotion into it particularly) it's just so typical, I can't reconcile it, even with 'compromised' Captain. This is so compromised that I wonder if he actually thought this was his way to have a hit. Just a shame he has no particular musical or lyrical ability in that idiom. Apparently he came to that conclusion on his own soon after.

Mind you, don't go by me - "Peaches" is probably my favorite song on it!
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Re: Beefheart- Unconditionally Guaranteed - is it that weak...?

Postby robertff » 22 Jan 2021, 09:47

Just you and me then C.



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Re: Beefheart - LIST YOUR TOP 5 ALBUMS

Postby C » 29 Jan 2021, 17:12

C wrote:My top 5 [order changes daily]

Trout Mask Replica
Lick My Decals Off, Baby
The Spotlight Kid
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)
Clear Spot




Today:

Trout Mask Replica
Lick My Decals Off, Baby
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)
Clear Spot
The Spotlight Kid






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Re: Beefheart - LIST YOUR TOP 5 ALBUMS

Postby robertff » 29 Jan 2021, 17:18

C wrote:
C wrote:My top 5 [order changes daily]

Trout Mask Replica
Lick My Decals Off, Baby
The Spotlight Kid
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)
Clear Spot




Today:

Trout Mask Replica
Lick My Decals Off, Baby
Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)
Clear Spot
The Spotlight Kid


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Re: Beefheart: Strictly Personal: phasing/reverberation - yes/no...?

Postby C » 10 Feb 2021, 12:49

Bob Krasnow added phasing and reverberation effects to the recordings on Strictly.

Apparently Beefheart disavowed the action but elsewhere that is refuted.

Anyway, what's your view - with or without?






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Re: Beefheart: Strictly Personal: phasing/reverberation - yes/no...?

Postby robertff » 10 Feb 2021, 15:15

C wrote:Bob Krasnow added phasing and reverberation effects to the recordings on Strictly.

Apparently Beefheart disavowed the action but elsewhere that is refuted.

Anyway, what's your view - with or without?


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You know where I stand regarding this C.- definitely with, exactly as it came out. One of the greatest psych albums ever produced.



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Re: Beefheart: Strictly Personal: phasing/reverberation - yes/no...?

Postby C » 10 Feb 2021, 15:34

robertff wrote:
C wrote:Bob Krasnow added phasing and reverberation effects to the recordings on Strictly.

Apparently Beefheart disavowed the action but elsewhere that is refuted.

Anyway, what's your view - with or without?


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You know where I stand regarding this C.- definitely with, exactly as it came out. One of the greatest psych albums ever produced.



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Yes Rob, to be honest - I can see what all the fuss is about.

It's not that ubiquitous - is it?

That said I'd love to own a mix of the album without it




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Re: Beefheart: Strictly Personal: phasing/reverberation - yes/no...?

Postby Charlie O. » 10 Feb 2021, 17:21

The phasing gets a tad out of hand on "Son Of Mirror Man". Otherwise, I'm more than fine with it. Great album.
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Re: Beefheart: Strictly Personal: phasing/reverberation - yes/no...?

Postby C » 11 Feb 2021, 15:09

robertff wrote: One of the greatest psych albums ever produced.


Indeed Rob - seminally robust





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