Beefheart - Spotlight is better than Shiny Beast? Oh no it's not, oh yes it is......

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Sometimes
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Always
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35%
Never
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Total votes: 20

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Beefheart - Spotlight is better than Shiny Beast? Oh no it's not, oh yes it is......

Postby C » 26 Dec 2020, 17:14

Spotlight is better than Shiny Beast? Oh no it's not, oh yes it is......






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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby LMG » 26 Dec 2020, 17:58

I am a 'sometimes' in that it took me a while to get him, and the revered Trout Mask Replica is an album I admire more than enjoy, it is right down the list of my favourite albums of his, and nowhere in my top 500 albums of all time.

That does not mean I think it is a bad album, or has not been very influential.

The ones I love best are Safe As Milk, Clear Spot/The Spotlight Kid (issued on the same cd and both with the word 'Spot' in the title so I can never tell them apart) and Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)

The latter remains my favourite from The Captain, this reminds me I must investigate the warp the album's history put in the discography, and the subsequent attempts to address and correct this.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Charlie O. » 26 Dec 2020, 18:12

I voted "Always". When I was a teenager I thought he was God.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 26 Dec 2020, 18:21

I am an 'always'.

You know, I have three live albums: My Father's Place '78, Amsterdam '80 and London '74 - all brilliantly well recorded and performed.

I am playing the former as a I type. What an absolute corker!

I recall Yomptepi was also lucky to get a copy.

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A great set-list

1. "Tropical Hot Dog Night"
2. "Nowadays a Woman's Gotta Hit a Man"
3. "Owed t'Alex"
4. "Dropout Boogie"
5. "Harry Irene"
6. "Abba Zaba"
7. "Her Eyes Are a Blue Million Miles"
8. "Old Fart at Play"
9. "Well"
10. "Ice Rose"
11. "Moonlight on Vermont"
12. "The Floppy Boot Stomp"
13. "You Know You're a Man"
14. "Bat Chain Puller"
15. "Apes-Ma"
16. "When I See Mommy I Feel Like a Mummy"
17. "Veteran's Day Poppy"
18. "Safe as Milk"
19. "Suction Prints"






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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Lord Rother » 26 Dec 2020, 18:42

90% Godawful racket.

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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby robertff » 26 Dec 2020, 18:49

Generally love his music particularly the first two. Have reservations about TMR and Decals but at the very least they are interesting. As for the rest I like them all and you also sent me a copy of Fathers Place C. - thanks very much.


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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby GoogaMooga » 26 Dec 2020, 18:50

I have it all, except for the Zappa collab, "Bongo Fury". A couple of albums really show he could be melodic, and while it is not my sole criterion for playtime, it is still quite important. I have listened to "Safe as Milk" and the Camden comp, "Electricity", a lot more than I have "Trout", for instance. I actually bought a Trout T-shirt once, back in Tokyo, but only wore it once. I got the box, "Grow Shark Fins", for my 40th, but only played the whole thing once. I think the Beefheart persona looms larger than the recorded legacy, the fact that he was such a weirdo and gave it all up to paint in the desert, well, that sort of thing fascinates me.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby jimboo » 26 Dec 2020, 18:51

LMG wrote:I am a 'sometimes' in that it took me a while to get him, and the revered Trout Mask Replica is an album I admire more than enjoy, it is right down the list of my favourite albums of his, and nowhere in my top 500 albums of all time.

That does not mean I think it is a bad album, or has not been very influential.

The ones I love best are Safe As Milk, Clear Spot/The Spotlight Kid (issued on the same cd and both with the word 'Spot' in the title so I can never tell them apart) and Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)

The latter remains my favourite from The Captain, this reminds me I must investigate the warp the album's history put in the discography, and the subsequent attempts to address and correct this.


Mostly agree, trout mask sometimes seems to make more sense on certain days, others less so. I like the two commercial records as well. A quite remarkable artist.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby jimboo » 26 Dec 2020, 18:52

GoogaMooga wrote:I have it all, except for the Zappa collab, "Bongo Fury". A couple of albums really show he could be melodic, and while it is not my sole criterion for playtime, it is still quite important. I have listened to "Safe as Milk" and the Camden comp, "Electricity", a lot more than I have "Trout", for instance. I actually bought a Trout T-shirt once, back in Tokyo, but only wore it once. I got the box, "Grow Shark Fins" for my 40th, but only played the whole thing once. I think the Beefheart persona looms larger than the recorded legacy, the fact that he was such a weirdo and gave it all up to paint in the desert, well, that sort of thing fascinates me.


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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Charlie O. » 26 Dec 2020, 19:00

jimboo wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:I have it all, except for the Zappa collab, "Bongo Fury". A couple of albums really show he could be melodic, and while it is not my sole criterion for playtime, it is still quite important. I have listened to "Safe as Milk" and the Camden comp, "Electricity", a lot more than I have "Trout", for instance. I actually bought a Trout T-shirt once, back in Tokyo, but only wore it once. I got the box, "Grow Shark Fins" for my 40th, but only played the whole thing once. I think the Beefheart persona looms larger than the recorded legacy, the fact that he was such a weirdo and gave it all up to paint in the desert, well, that sort of thing fascinates me.


Googs, you need bongo fury, every home does.

Mmmm, not really.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby LMG » 26 Dec 2020, 19:16

jimboo wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:I have it all, except for the Zappa collab, "Bongo Fury". A couple of albums really show he could be melodic, and while it is not my sole criterion for playtime, it is still quite important. I have listened to "Safe as Milk" and the Camden comp, "Electricity", a lot more than I have "Trout", for instance. I actually bought a Trout T-shirt once, back in Tokyo, but only wore it once. I got the box, "Grow Shark Fins" for my 40th, but only played the whole thing once. I think the Beefheart persona looms larger than the recorded legacy, the fact that he was such a weirdo and gave it all up to paint in the desert, well, that sort of thing fascinates me.


Googs, you need bongo fury, every home does.


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jimboo wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:I have it all, except for the Zappa collab, "Bongo Fury". A couple of albums really show he could be melodic, and while it is not my sole criterion for playtime, it is still quite important. I have listened to "Safe as Milk" and the Camden comp, "Electricity", a lot more than I have "Trout", for instance. I actually bought a Trout T-shirt once, back in Tokyo, but only wore it once. I got the box, "Grow Shark Fins" for my 40th, but only played the whole thing once. I think the Beefheart persona looms larger than the recorded legacy, the fact that he was such a weirdo and gave it all up to paint in the desert, well, that sort of thing fascinates me.


Googs, you need bongo fury, every home does.

Mmmm, not really.


If there is another music-oriented message board in Christendom that can produce two opposing views of a Zappa/Beefheart collaboration within a ten minute window, and a witty observational summary drawing attention to this fact within half an hour, then please point me in its direction and I will be eternally grateful.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 26 Dec 2020, 19:32

Lord Rother wrote:90% Godawful racket.


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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 26 Dec 2020, 19:33

robertff wrote: you also sent me a copy of Fathers Place C. - thanks very much.


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Did I....? :?

That was a few years ago Rob

Go on mate, play some of it!




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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 26 Dec 2020, 19:41

jimboo wrote:Googs, you need bongo fury, every home does.


Agreed!



Beefheart takes lead vocals on six of the nine tracks

Two of various Magic Bands (who also played with Zappa) are present too - Bruce Fowler and Denny Walley






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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Charlie O. » 26 Dec 2020, 19:49

It was genuinely sweet of Frank to hire Don when no one else would (so to speak). But the results are not happy. It isn't Zappa's best material by a long shot (although Beefheart does manage to manifest more humor out of "Debra Kadabra" than Frank ever put there), and when his band noodles listlessly behind Don's two spoken word pieces you can tell that Frank thinks he's being especially magnanimous and Beef wishes he had his Magic Band back - or even his Tragic Band. Car crash.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 26 Dec 2020, 20:25

Charlie O. wrote:Car crash.


Nonsense Chas!







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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby C » 26 Dec 2020, 21:00

I'm not sure everybody has seen this







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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby Neige » 26 Dec 2020, 21:54

LMG wrote:I am a 'sometimes' in that it took me a while to get him, and the revered Trout Mask Replica is an album I admire more than enjoy (...)
The ones I love best are Safe As Milk, Clear Spot/The Spotlight Kid (issued on the same cd and both with the word 'Spot' in the title so I can never tell them apart) and Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)

The latter remains my favourite from The Captain, this reminds me I must investigate the warp the album's history put in the discography, and the subsequent attempts to address and correct this.


This is, to the last word, EXACTLY my take on the Captain...

Only with an added soft spot (see what I did there?) for Lick My Decals Off Baby, because it was the first of his albums I owned.
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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby LMG » 26 Dec 2020, 22:07

Neige wrote:
LMG wrote:I am a 'sometimes' in that it took me a while to get him, and the revered Trout Mask Replica is an album I admire more than enjoy (...)
The ones I love best are Safe As Milk, Clear Spot/The Spotlight Kid (issued on the same cd and both with the word 'Spot' in the title so I can never tell them apart) and Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)

The latter remains my favourite from The Captain, this reminds me I must investigate the warp the album's history put in the discography, and the subsequent attempts to address and correct this.


This is, to the last word, EXACTLY my take on the Captain...

Only with an added soft spot (see what I did there?) for Lick My Decals Off Baby, because it was the first of his albums I owned.


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Re: Do you get Beefheart....?

Postby slightbreeze » 26 Dec 2020, 23:09

Lord Rother wrote:90% Godawful racket.

I take your 90% and raise it another 5%. However, I quite like soft rock classic "Love, will keep us together" he made with Tennille