I like The Shadows so much these days

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I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby billy » 14 Nov 2020, 19:49

That's all I have to say, but good god I do.

If you can pick up the 6 CD set The Early Years (expanded edition) (make sure you go for the edition from 2013 with the extras and cleaned up tapes) then I will happily polish you boots. It's great to dip in and out of and has every track from 1959 to 1966

[https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00E3S580C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]

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Rob Bradford (the guy behind it all) says:

I'm new to the Steve Hoffman site....but I've been around a long time in musical circles!! Well......as I was the consultant / notes writer / track researcher on this project, then I really can give you 'chapter & verse' on this one. First up - every single track (apart from one!) has been remastered from the original master tapes. No noise reduction of any kind has been applied. No fake stereo. A couple of stereo rarities - the stereo master tape of "FBI" was lost for over 40 years!! It was finally traced in 2008 by Shadows fan / expert Tony Hoffman (no relation to Steve!) and used (with official permission) on a private label CD - which many fans may have missed ("Instro Beat" - a Legacy Sounds CD). An AV of a track called "Some Are Lonely" somehow escaped to France and only ever appeared in stereo on a French 10" LP from 1962!! Now - the stereo master for that track has never been found & so the stereo AV has been remastered from a prisitine copy of the ultra rare French vinyl. There are 3 'first time stereo' releases. "Blue Shadows" and "French Dressing" were 1963 recordings - which appeared on the "Dance With The Shadows" LP in 1964. Those tracks were recorded on the EMI mobile. Producer Norrie Paramor was never happy with the master tapes - due to technical / mechanical problems & they were never mixed to stereo - even appearing in mono on stereo versions of the LP (& later CD reissues). So.....now....50 years later (!!!!!!)...they have finally been mixed to stereo for the very first time!!! In 1966 the Shadows appeared (as puppets) in the original "Thunderbirds Are Go!" movie. They recorded their own versions of "Thunderbirds" and "Zero - X" but the tracks weren't mixed into stereo until 1997. They also recorded an original, "Lady Penelope", but.......in 1997 the master tape couldn't be found. Thus....."Lady Penelope" (because I'm pleased to say that I helped to locate the long - lost multi - track) became the very last Shadows track (1959 - 1966) to be finally mixed into stereo - especially for this 6 CD set. Additionally - there are 31 mono tracks (all mastered from the original analogue master tapes) making their debut on CD (I believe that 4 of these mono tracks may have appeared on fairly obscure and long - deleted Australian / South African CDs about 25 - 30 yrs ago...but they were dubbed from vinyl). The Shadows (originally the Drifters) first 7 recorded tracks were only ever mono. So...what you've got is 147 stereo tracks - all remastered (2 of them ultra rare and 3 'first - time' stereo) and 38 mono tracks (31 first - time on CD and from the master tapes). Of course the 31 first time from master tapes mono tracks have stereo equivalents - so there are 154 different tracks (2 versions of "Some Are Lonely" - which are not identical). hope this helps. A great set. Great price. Great notes!
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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby soundchaser » 14 Nov 2020, 20:17

I always liked them, but I’ve never looked deeper than the usual suspects. Loved the dance moves, too.

Edgar Broughton was also obviously a fan, if Apache Dropout was anything to go by.

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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby Tom Waits For No One » 15 Nov 2020, 00:45

I picked up the 4CD 'Complete Singles: As & Bs: 1959-1980' set for a quid in a charity shop a while back and while it veers of at the end of the third disc into Cavatina country, it's a great listen.

The Early Years set looks a treat as does the cheaper but not as extensive Real Gone Music release

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Classic-Albums ... d_wg=ELCRk

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Postby GoogaMooga » 15 Nov 2020, 03:22

Always been meaning to get the 6 CD set, even more so, now that it has been expanded and cleaned up.
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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby GoogaMooga » 15 Nov 2020, 03:24

Some of my faves:

Frightened City
Foot Tapper
FBI

As for Apache, I like Jørgen Ingmann's even better, that version topped Billboard.
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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby pcqgod » 15 Nov 2020, 22:55

I'm not sure I could listen to hours of Shadows on end, but I do love those classic singles and their deliberate, unhurried, uncluttered beauty.
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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby 50 Shades Of Blue » 16 Nov 2020, 23:38

billy wrote:That's all I have to say, but good god I do.

If you can pick up the 6 CD set The Early Years (expanded edition) (make sure you go for the edition from 2013 with the extras and cleaned up tapes) then I will happily polish you boots. It's great to dip in and out of and has every track from 1959 to 1966

[https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00E3S580C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]

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What tracks would you draw our attention to?

I heard "Man of Mystery" on the radio a couple of days ago. Well known but sounded great.
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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby Rorschach » 17 Nov 2020, 14:41

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My brother bought this for my mum nearly 60 years ago and I still love all four tracks on it.
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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby Kinkhurt » 18 Nov 2020, 09:18

I was into the Shadows since I was about 6, my Gran used to buy me LP's from Woollies on the cheap, I believe that they were drip feeding their entire back-catalogue through the bargain bins back then. I still have them as well. Their catalogue is vast and varied - there's a hell of a lot of twee shit in there along with pithy pun-ridden song titles and some ill-advised vocals tracks. The vocal tracks do nothing for me, but there's some great playing to go along with it. Their discography is a mess but its all cheap enough. As long as you don't stray too far into the 70's there's decent stuff to be found - nobody ever needed a geeky guy in 70's milk-bottles, playing Cavatina on one string, did they ?

The one-stop-shop buy is this :
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Classic 60's, surf-tinged guitar wonderfulness

Ive got these 2 comps on my work USB which do me fine:
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They influenced a bazillion guitarists in the 60's, simple sounding tunes that aren't that easy to play, accurately. If you can get through FBI or Shadoogie without fluffing it, you're not doing bad. Hank lost cred in the 70's with the slew of crappy instrumental covers they did, but back in the early 60's he was no slouch. Remember him this way.
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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby GoogaMooga » 18 Nov 2020, 13:11

I collect it all. Unless it's a Celine Dion cover.
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Re: I like The Shadows so much these days

Postby C » 18 Nov 2020, 18:47

soundchaser wrote:Edgar Broughton was also obviously a fan, if Apache Dropout was anything to go by.


Apache Dropout, combined The Shadows' Apache with Beefheart's Drop Out Boogie.

It was played on BBC's Juke Box Jury hosted by the David Jacobs who wasn't too keen









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