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Producers and arrangers

Postby GoogaMooga » 12 Sep 2020, 13:10

Producers and arrangers - is it ever the same person on both duties? We all know of a few superstar producers, but how about arrangers? Do they get short shrift? Do they ever overshadow the producer?

Who are the great arrangers? Jack Nitzsche, Marty Paich, Johnny Paté... ?

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Postby Positive Passion » 12 Sep 2020, 15:27

Nelson Riddle and Norrie Paramor, of course.

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Re: Producers and arrangers

Postby Muskrat » 12 Sep 2020, 16:12

Top of my head: Ralph Burns, Bill Holman, Bob Mersey, Bob “Hutch” Davie, Irvin Kostal, Luther Henderson, Billy May, Frank Foster, etc.
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Postby Dr. Baron » 12 Sep 2020, 16:34

What about Creed Taylor? He had a thing, didn't he?
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Postby Charlie O. » 12 Sep 2020, 18:47

Brian Wilson and George Martin are obvious examples of people who did both.

Basically, anyone who wants to can "be a producer" - it's a remarkably ill-defined job. So there's no reason an arranger can't do it.
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Re: Producers and arrangers

Postby Walk In My Shadow » 12 Sep 2020, 20:30

Miami Steve Van Zandt singing each horn part for the brass section. Can't remember the occasion, probably a Southside Johnny album.
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Postby Jimbly » 12 Sep 2020, 22:53

Wally Stott/Angela Morley, Reg Guest and Peter Knight all did fantastic arrangements on Scott Walker's solo albums
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Re: Producers and arrangers

Postby John aka Josh » 12 Sep 2020, 23:36

Claude Thornhill and Gil Evans sprang immediately to mind, swiftly followed by Billy Strayhorn, Mary Lou Williams, Duke Ellington, Carla Bley, Jimmy Giuffre & Neal Hefti.

All have arranged magnificently and are among the great arrangers. Think they're well known as such in the jazz world.
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Re: Producers and arrangers

Postby GoogaMooga » 13 Sep 2020, 03:11

John aka Josh wrote:Claude Thornhill and Gil Evans sprang immediately to mind, swiftly followed by Billy Strayhorn, Mary Lou Williams, Duke Ellington, Carla Bley, Jimmy Giuffre & Neal Hefti.

All have arranged magnificently and are among the great arrangers. Think they're well known as such in the jazz world.


Well, obviously Gil Evans, Billy Strayhorn, and Neal Hefti. Strayhorn also composed and was behind some of Duke Ellington's biggest hits, incl. The A-Train.
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Re: Producers and arrangers

Postby jimboo » 20 Sep 2020, 20:53

Jimbly wrote:Wally Stott/Angela Morley, Reg Guest and Peter Knight all did fantastic arrangements on Scott Walker's solo albums


They are breathtaking Jim , breathtaking.
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Re: Producers and arrangers

Postby Geezee » 21 Sep 2020, 19:28

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