Qobuz v Tidal v Spotify and £5,000 per metre speaker cable

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Qobuz v Tidal v Spotify and £5,000 per metre speaker cable

Postby C » 21 Feb 2020, 15:28

I've just got into this modern streaming technology and a mate of mine was talking to me about Tidal

I was around his house yesterday and the Hi Res version he had did sound excellent.
[He has got excellent equipment though - he recently paid £6,000 for 5 metres of speaker cable!].

I read a What Hifi? review comparing Tidal to Spotify and on 'sound quality' Tidal won 'hands down'

Anybody got it?

They do a 30 day trial







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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby robertff » 21 Feb 2020, 16:01

Yes, I did go into a hi fi shop just recently to ask about all this, perhaps to think about it for sometime in the future and the guy there did mention about tidal being the best sound quality. He did explain why although for there life of me I can't remember what he said was the reason, something about them having access to better quality source material I think it was.

£6000 for 5 metres of cable - puts my £100 a metre to shame, admittedly it was nearly 10 years ago, so with price increases it might be a little closer.

When I'm decrepit and have to sell all my records etc. and go into a home perhaps that'll be the right time for streaming, maybe before?



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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby soundchaser » 21 Feb 2020, 16:18

I haven’t got the ears for that kind of expense and I certainly couldn’t justify it to my wife.

We have Spotify, but I don’t use it that often. I just want to concentrate on my collection from now on.

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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby C » 21 Feb 2020, 16:56

Spotify does sound good to my old ears and it is easy to access.

It saves me having to go upstairs where my collection is housed.

Here's the article:

https://www.whathifi.com/features/tidal ... -is-better






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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby robertff » 21 Feb 2020, 19:37

Carlsson wrote:Spotify does sound good to my old ears and it is easy to access.

It saves me having to go upstairs where my collection is housed.

Here's the article:

https://www.whathifi.com/features/tidal ... -is-better



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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby John aka Josh » 21 Feb 2020, 20:25

robertff wrote:
Carlsson wrote:Spotify does sound good to my old ears and it is easy to access.

It saves me having to go upstairs where my collection is housed.

Here's the article:

https://www.whathifi.com/features/tidal ... -is-better



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But going upstairs to fetch a record or CD keeps you fit - not into this sedentary, lassitudinous, 'Alexa' lifestyle.


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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby Still Baron » 21 Feb 2020, 22:25

If I’m listening to Spotify it’s on my phone or my work computer so I don’t think it would be worth it to me to worry about fidelity for streaming. Yet.
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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby C » 21 Feb 2020, 22:28

Yes, this is the thing - I have decent equipment - re: receivers and hi-fi set up so it might be worth it





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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby Six String » 22 Feb 2020, 22:38

Take the free trial on Tidal.
Pick an album available on Tidal and Spotify.
Compare the sound.
Done.

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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby Hugh » 23 Feb 2020, 01:46

Check out Qobuz. It is better than Tidal.

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Postby Count Machuki » 23 Feb 2020, 02:41

I want to know more about this £6k speaker cable. I've always used really, really cheap lamp wire and sometimes wondered if I'm missing anything. Thankfully I've always come to my senses. Expensive speaker cable seems like some jive to me.

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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby Still Baron » 23 Feb 2020, 13:51

Count Machuki wrote:I want to know more about this £6k speaker cable. I've always used really, really cheap lamp wire and sometimes wondered if I'm missing anything. Thankfully I've always come to my senses. Expensive speaker cable seems like some jive to me.

https://www.machinedesign.com/community ... eaker-wire


Surely there’s a reasonable compromise!
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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby C » 23 Feb 2020, 15:23

Still Baron wrote:
Count Machuki wrote:I want to know more about this £6k speaker cable. I've always used really, really cheap lamp wire and sometimes wondered if I'm missing anything. Thankfully I've always come to my senses. Expensive speaker cable seems like some jive to me.

https://www.machinedesign.com/community ... eaker-wire


Surely there’s a reasonable compromise!


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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby C » 23 Feb 2020, 15:27

Count Machuki wrote:https://www.machinedesign.com/community/editorial-comment/article/21832227/5-myths-about-speaker-wire


The fact that the autor called it 'wire' instead of 'cable' turned me off staright away.

It's like an electrician calling them 'bulbs' and not 'lamps'

Or a chippy calling it 'sandpaper' instead of 'glasspaper'


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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby Hugh » 23 Feb 2020, 15:29

At least Billybob will be happy.

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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby C » 23 Feb 2020, 15:43

Hugh wrote:Check out Qobuz


Yes, that was mentioned too - I'll look into it

Thing is I am one of the few that still plays albums.

Tidal talks about 'tracks' all the time....

Suggestions?






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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby Hugh » 23 Feb 2020, 15:50

You can play complete albums on both Tidal and Qobuz. You just need the discipline to stick with what you are playing and not to switch around to whatever else happens to pop into your head at the time.

Qobuz do a free trial and they have reduced the price of their monthly subscription. What would you be streaming through, C?

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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby C » 23 Feb 2020, 17:17

Hugh wrote:
Qobuz do a free trial and they have reduced the price of their monthly subscription. What would you be streaming through, C?


My iPhone, arcam receiver and hi-fi






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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby Neil Jung » 24 Feb 2020, 09:21

A friend uses Qobuz and sometimes pops round and uses his phone to connect with my Arcam thing ( the same one you have I think ). It does sound better than Spotify but if you want to get maximum quality ( ie better than CD ) you need to invest a few thousand in a proper streamer.
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Re: Tidal versus Spotify

Postby C » 24 Feb 2020, 09:31

Neil Jung wrote: if you want to get maximum quality ( ie better than CD ) you need to invest a few thousand in a proper streamer.


Yes I appreciate that Mike . [I probably need to upgrade my ears too!]

But I was just looking for a better sound for just a few extra quid a month.

I'll look into both Tidal and Qobuz










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