So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?

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So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?

Postby Positive Passion » 27 Oct 2019, 18:36

I mean, I have always been uninterested in his solo stuff and never bought any of it, but the Smiths are very deeply rooted in my cultural life.

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Re: So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?

Postby soundchaser » 27 Oct 2019, 21:22

How long is a piece of string? I like his solo stuff well enough, particularly Vauxhall & I and You Are The Quarry.

Give ‘em a go, I think you might be pleasantly surprised.

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Postby Darkness_Fish » 27 Oct 2019, 21:24

Well, I've never been a massive Smiths fan, more of a casual repeated listener to a handful of tunes, but I think ignoring his entire solo career is fairly safe. Admittedly, you lose Suedehead and Every Day is Like Sunday, but that's about it. Just look at it that as a collective, The Smiths weren't a bunch of virulent racists, so you're on quite safe ground. I do think it's quite funny that the man the ultra-politically correct NME and Melody Maker staked all their chips on turned out to be Alf Garnett. And his solo music is largely as pathetic as his views.
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Re: So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?

Postby Still Baron » 28 Oct 2019, 04:14

Positive Passion wrote:I mean, I have always been uninterested in his solo stuff and never bought any of it, but the Smiths are very deeply rooted in my cultural life.


Looks to me like you’ve answered your own question!
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Re: So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?

Postby The Prof » 28 Oct 2019, 10:27

I mean, really.

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Postby Minnie the Minx » 28 Oct 2019, 12:46

The Prof wrote:I mean, really.

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He’s clearly read the same Chitra Ramaswamy posts that I have!
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Postby Oscar » 29 Oct 2019, 07:28

Poor old Moz. He's clearly on the spectrum and has some particularly complex and unfortunate thinking patterns. I generally draw a line when celebrities either become as annoying as Sting or paedophiles. I wouldn't have him round for tea and I've stopped sending christmas cards but he is the most important person to grace the British music scene in the last 35 years.

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Postby soundchaser » 29 Oct 2019, 07:54

Oscar wrote:Poor old Moz. He's clearly on the spectrum


Yes, clearly. I’ve thought that for a long time.

If we stopped listening to music by people whose views we find objectionable, our collections would be somewhat smaller.

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Postby Tom Waits For No One » 29 Oct 2019, 08:09

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Postby Oscar » 29 Oct 2019, 08:11

soundchaser wrote:
Oscar wrote:Poor old Moz. He's clearly on the spectrum


Yes, clearly. I’ve thought that for a long time.

If we stopped listening to music by people whose views we find objectionable, our collections would be somewhat smaller.


And with true and righteous political conviction you would have to defer from liking a piece of music until you researched the artists political affiliation, I guess?

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Postby Tom Waits For No One » 29 Oct 2019, 08:14

I think Moz knows people are stopping listening to him. Check out his merch from recent gigs

https://louderthanwar.com/weird-merch-m ... as-signed/
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Postby Oscar » 29 Oct 2019, 08:24

Tom Waits For No One wrote:I think Moz knows people are stopping listening to him. Check out his merch from recent gigs

https://louderthanwar.com/weird-merch-m ... as-signed/


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Postby Powehi » 29 Oct 2019, 09:52

Tom Waits For No One wrote:I think Moz knows people are stopping listening to him. Check out his merch from recent gigs

https://louderthanwar.com/weird-merch-m ... as-signed/



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Postby soundchaser » 29 Oct 2019, 10:50

I absolutely love this one:


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Postby Graham Murakami » 29 Oct 2019, 22:06

soundchaser wrote:I absolutely love this one:



I do too. And the Smiths were the best band ever.

But it was fifteen years ago, and much as I love the Smiths, he hasn't done anything good since You are the Quarry. Live, he was rubbish the last time I saw him. I used to find him hilarious, but like every single right-wing person ever, he is not funny now. The first book was great, but the second made you worry deeply about his mental health. Life is too short to listen to racists. I didn't buy the last record and haven't unwrapped the one before that from its packaging. I wish Ryan Adams recuperation would hurry up and get started, and feel bemused by the villification of Michael Jackson, but Morrissey is dead to me.

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Re: So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?

Postby Muskrat » 30 Oct 2019, 01:22

I’ll never tire of one of my favorite Beatles songs.

“The world is treating me bad...Morrisey.”
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Re: So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?

Postby soundchaser » 30 Oct 2019, 09:31

Graham Murakami wrote:
But it was fifteen years ago, and much as I love the Smiths, he hasn't done anything good since You are the Quarry. Live, he was rubbish the last time I saw him. I used to find him hilarious, but like every single right-wing person ever, he is not funny now. The first book was great, but the second made you worry deeply about his mental health. Life is too short to listen to racists. I didn't buy the last record and haven't unwrapped the one before that from its packaging. I wish Ryan Adams recuperation would hurry up and get started, and feel bemused by the villification of Michael Jackson, but Morrissey is dead to me.


You Are The Quarry was as far as I went with Morrissey, so I can't comment on anything post that. But I played YATQ yesterday and it remains a very good record. Other than the BBC, I don't really follow the news that much, so I generally don't read about his rants and rages either. So he can be as big a twat as he likes, but If the music's good, then I'm going to listen to it. Similarly, my wife and I have no problem listening to Michael Jackson. He was never found guilty of anything. I suppose you could say the same about Jimmy Savile, but the weight of evidence against him was overwhelming. I really think Michael Jackson's family would have disowned him had they felt the same.

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Postby Powehi » 30 Oct 2019, 09:37

Positive Passion wrote:
So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?



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Postby bobzilla77 » 31 Oct 2019, 05:42

Someone sent me pictures of miles of empty rows at his recent gig in NJ. Someone else said the staff was giving away Moz tickets at that venue when he saw Bryan Ferry there a week before.

But the Hollywood bowl was probably well attended. Maybe a Mexican audience just takes it for granted that a white entertainer is prejudiced against them.

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Re: So, at what point do I stop listening to Morrisey?

Postby Diamond Dog » 01 Nov 2019, 20:54

The correct answer is somewhere around 1975.
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