Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Do talk back
User avatar
Minnie the Minx
funky thigh collector
Posts: 30745
Joined: 29 Dec 2006, 16:00
Location: In the naughty North and in the sexy South

Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Postby Minnie the Minx » 25 Oct 2019, 03:18

What is it about these songs that makes them so hard to sing without backing music?

Nelly F - I’m Like A Bird
Kate Bush - The Man With The Child In His Eyes
Paul McCartney - Jet

Play the music and I’m away. No music, they get crucified. Why? Why just these three?
You come at the Queen, you best not miss.

Dr Markus wrote:
Someone in your line of work usually as their own man cave aka the shed we're they can potter around fixing stuff or something don't they?

User avatar
Charlie O.
Posts: 40534
Joined: 21 Jul 2003, 19:53
Location: In-A-Badda-La-Wadda, bay-beh

Re: Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Postby Charlie O. » 25 Oct 2019, 03:33

There are loads of songs like that. I don't recall the Nelly F. tune, but the other two have some fairly unusual chord changes and modulations. The melodies don't really "make sense" without their harmonic context.
Image

User avatar
soundchaser
Rokster & Rollster
Posts: 8466
Joined: 20 Jun 2006, 10:55

Re: Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Postby soundchaser » 25 Oct 2019, 09:51

I’ve got no problem remembering music (Running Jet through my head right now), but it’s lyrics I have a problem with. Even with my own songs, I have a real problem remembering words unless they’re laid out in front of me. Everyone’s different, I guess.

Powehi
Posts: 1157
Joined: 25 Aug 2016, 17:12

Re: Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Postby Powehi » 25 Oct 2019, 09:57


User avatar
Quaco
F R double E
Posts: 47208
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 19:41

Re: Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Postby Quaco » 26 Oct 2019, 00:39

I sometimes test myself with weird songs to see if I can stay the course and stay in the right key. Some of the Beach Boys stuff is fun, like "Don't Talk..." and "Caroline No". The first part is OK, but it gets tricky along the way. Sounds good in the shower!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

User avatar
Minnie the Minx
funky thigh collector
Posts: 30745
Joined: 29 Dec 2006, 16:00
Location: In the naughty North and in the sexy South

Re: Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Postby Minnie the Minx » 26 Oct 2019, 01:34

EVERYTHING sounds good in the shower!
You come at the Queen, you best not miss.

Dr Markus wrote:
Someone in your line of work usually as their own man cave aka the shed we're they can potter around fixing stuff or something don't they?

User avatar
The Slider
Self-Aggrandising Cock
Posts: 46882
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 19:05
Location: I'm only here for the sneer
Contact:

Re: Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Postby The Slider » 26 Oct 2019, 08:25

I recall Tym trying to sing The Gnome once and his flailing around trying to find the right note for "and then one day..hooray!" was a highlight of my trip to Barcelona
Unusual modulation, as Charlie says.
The Complete Roxy Music Mp3 set now available in the usual place, should you want one.
Image

User avatar
HEN
Posts: 438
Joined: 04 Jan 2017, 20:22

Re: Why are these songs so hard to sing without backing music?

Postby HEN » 26 Oct 2019, 17:30

soundchaser wrote:Even with my own songs


post 'em up, dickie! BCB could do wiv a laugh. it really could.
GoogaMooga wrote:Alright everybody, the latest thrift shop discovery is, in one word, WOW...!