Stand Up/Benefit - a divide across the pond [and elsewhere]....?

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Poll ended at 31 Oct 2019, 12:47

I'm American and prefer Stand Up
4
22%
I'm American and prefer Benefit
2
11%
I'm British and prefer Stand Up
7
39%
I'm British and prefer Benefit
0
No votes
I'm something else and prefer Stand Up
4
22%
I'm something else and prefer Benefit
1
6%
 
Total votes: 18

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Re: Stand Up/Benefit - a divide across the pond [and elsewhere]....?

Postby soundchaser » 22 Oct 2019, 07:39

Charlie O. wrote:I'm American and I love them pretty much equally. There was a time, though, when I was much younger, when Benefit was my favorite Tull album.

It might be worth noting that Benefit is the only Tull album aside from the Living In The Past comp where the US track line-up differed from its UK counterpart.

    With You There To Help Me
    Nothing To Say
    Inside
    Son
    For Michael Collins, Jeffrey And Me

    To Cry You A Song
    A Time For Everything?
    Teacher [album version]
    Play In Time
    Sossity; You're A Woman

Dropping "Alive And Well And Living In", putting "Inside" in the middle of Side 1 and "Teacher" in the middle of Side 2 results in a subtly brighter, less dour album.


I never knew that, thanks. I'll give it some thought.

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Postby soundchaser » 22 Oct 2019, 07:42

C wrote:Stand Up by a whisker of a gnat's pubic hair

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Is that metric or imperial measurement?

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Postby never/ever » 22 Oct 2019, 08:41

'I'm something else... '????

Time for the Brits to be kicked out of the EU.
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Postby C » 22 Oct 2019, 11:44

never/ever wrote:Time for the Brits to be kicked out of the EU.


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Postby soundchaser » 22 Oct 2019, 16:48

never/ever wrote:'Time for the Brits to be kicked out of the EU.


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Re: Stand Up/Benefit - a divide across the pond [and elsewhere]....?

Postby Hightea » 22 Oct 2019, 16:58

fan of both albums and don't find much difference in which I prefer more.

I'll say Standup but its close.

Aren't there a few of these?
I know you all hate Oasis but isn't their first two albums the same
Definitely Maybe (1994) - favored by Brits
(What's the Story) Morning Glory? (1995) -favored by Americans

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Postby soundchaser » 22 Oct 2019, 17:50

Hightea wrote:fan of both albums and don't find much difference in which I prefer more.

I'll say Standup but its close.

Aren't there a few of these?
I know you all hate Oasis but isn't their first two albums the same
Definitely Maybe (1994) - favored by Brits
(What's the Story) Morning Glory? (1995) -favored by Americans


I love Oasis! You may we’ll be right, but even so, if push came to shove, I’d choose Morning Glory.

Two sensational albums, though.

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Postby soundchaser » 25 Oct 2019, 09:36

Having given a good listen to both albums, I’m definitely going to come down in favour of Stand Up. Which isn’t to say Benefit isn’t a fine album, because it certainly is. I liked the heavier sound and as already been mentioned, Benefit is a precursor to Aqualung. Martin Barre absolutely shines on this album. As I said in an earlier post, I didn’t know there was an American version of the album and I think I prefer the look of that. Really good, Tull defining songs, although the best from this era might just be The Witches Promise.

But Stand Up is my favourite of these two and possibly my favourite of all their albums. Stand Up, is one of those albums that has been sprinkled in fairy dust. The songs, the playing and the flow, are just perfect. I think this is their Yes Album, their Selling England By The Pound: it’s that good. In terms of wonderful songs and flow, I’m reminded of In It For The Money By Supergrass, which just kicked ass big time. It’s great having Living In The Past as a bonus track, as it goes really well with the beauty of what’s gone before. In summary, Benefit is really good, but Stand Up is a masterpiece.

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Postby C » 27 Oct 2019, 11:03

soundchaser wrote:Witches Promise.


Marvellous





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Postby Six String » 28 Oct 2019, 00:33

Charlie O. wrote:I'm American and I love them pretty much equally. There was a time, though, when I was much younger, when Benefit was my favorite Tull album.

It might be worth noting that Benefit is the only Tull album aside from the Living In The Past comp where the US track line-up differed from its UK counterpart.

    With You There To Help Me
    Nothing To Say
    Inside
    Son
    For Michael Collins, Jeffrey And Me

    To Cry You A Song
    A Time For Everything?
    Teacher [album version]
    Play In Time
    Sossity; You're A Woman

Dropping "Alive And Well And Living In", putting "Inside" in the middle of Side 1 and "Teacher" in the middle of Side 2 results in a subtly brighter, less dour album.


I'm with Charlie, Benefit was my first Tull album and was my favorite of the two for years but nowadays I like them equally. They are different but both great.

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Postby C » 30 Oct 2019, 08:56

Charlie O. wrote:I'm American and I love them pretty much equally. There was a time, though, when I was much younger, when Benefit was my favorite Tull album.

It might be worth noting that Benefit is the only Tull album aside from the Living In The Past comp where the US track line-up differed from its UK counterpart.

    With You There To Help Me
    Nothing To Say
    Inside
    Son
    For Michael Collins, Jeffrey And Me

    To Cry You A Song
    A Time For Everything?
    Teacher [album version]
    Play In Time
    Sossity; You're A Woman

Dropping "Alive And Well And Living In", putting "Inside" in the middle of Side 1 and "Teacher" in the middle of Side 2 results in a subtly brighter, less dour album.


That's a good running order although I do enjoy 'Alive & Well' also





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Postby C » 01 Nov 2019, 22:21

The British prefer Stand Up....






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Postby Matt Wilson » 01 Nov 2019, 23:05

As do the Americans and the something elses.

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Postby Mike Boom » 02 Nov 2019, 12:51

What a run of albums Stand Up , Benefit, Aqualung, Thick as a Brick - all classics in their own way.

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Postby soundchaser » 02 Nov 2019, 13:07

Mike Boom wrote:What a run of albums Stand Up , Benefit, Aqualung, Thick as a Brick - all classics in their own way.


Yeah, a fantastic run of albums: as good as anyone, really.

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Postby Matt Wilson » 02 Nov 2019, 15:24

Nobody ever mentions This Was. Is it too bluesy for most Tull fans? I love it.

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Postby C » 02 Nov 2019, 17:52

Matt Wilson wrote:Nobody ever mentions This Was. Is it too bluesy for most Tull fans? I love it.


I love it too - but I think your hypothesis is true.

It's a bit of a dog's breakfast, style-wise, too with Mick being involved in four songs

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Postby C » 02 Nov 2019, 17:54

Mike Boom wrote:What a run of albums Stand Up , Benefit, Aqualung, Thick as a Brick - all classics in their own way.


Why stop at Brick?

Many consider the next one to be their finest work- it's certainly in my top 5





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Postby Matt Wilson » 02 Nov 2019, 17:56

You know it's funny - Mick always maintained that Ian wasn't into the blues enough and that he (Mick) was unhappy with the direction the band was going in for the This Was sessions, yet I hear more than a little Tull (at least the Tull of This Was) in some of those Blodwyn Pig songs.

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Postby Mike Boom » 04 Nov 2019, 14:51

C wrote:Why stop at Brick?


Well quite, personally I rate all them up to Stormwatch, but I'm speaking more as generally acknowledged, no question, no doubt classics. Not sure there is a consensus that Passion Play is up there with their best, tho it's always in the top 2 or 3 as far as I'm concerned.

As far as This Was, I do find it rather too bluesy ,its great of course but doesn't quite have the songs, yet.